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Rudy Giuliani- Life Long Liberal (Ding: We have a winner)
Rhsager.com ^ | 2007 | George Marlin

Posted on 03/26/2007 6:53:24 AM PDT by pissant

Introduction

Rudy Giuliani has been barnstorming the nation, proclaiming himself a conservative and saying his hero is Ronald Reagan. Recent opinion polls suggest his campaign is striking a chord with the GOP’s rank and file, and New York’s neo-conservatives have taken the lead in promoting the former Mayor as the savior of the Republican Party, and heaven knows the GOP needs saving.

But those polls also indicate that most Republicans around the country don’t really know where Mr. Giuliani stands on key issues, and those who do know are glossing over some very striking philosophical flaws—at least from a truly conservative perspective. Rudy supports abortion, including partial-birth abortion and government funding of abortion, and he is in favor of gun control, gay rights, domestic partnerships, and bias-crime laws. And that’s just a short list.

As a conservative activist who has observed Giuliani for many years (and ran against him in the ’93 mayoral election), I can say categorically that he is not now and never has been a conservative. In my judgment, his record leaves no doubt that he’s a lifelong liberal.

From undergraduate days writing for his college newspaper, throughout his extensive legal career, and especially in his very visible political service—up to an including his actions after 9/11—Giuliani has held and promoted leftist views.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; georgemarlin; giuliani; liberal; neocons; rudy; rudy2008
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Read it and weep.
1 posted on 03/26/2007 6:53:25 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

What is this? Someone's term paper?? :)


2 posted on 03/26/2007 6:56:02 AM PDT by veronica (Where some in the anti-Rudy crowd get their material > http://www.alternet.org/election04/19673/)
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To: veronica

Hardly

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3 posted on 03/26/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: pissant
If I weep, it's only because so many seem to believe that we'll lose the WH in '08 unless Giuliani is the GOP nominee. I think we should at least give one of the more conservative candidates a shot before resigning ourselves to the idea of a moderate 'pubbie president.

I like Giuliani. But I think we can do better.
4 posted on 03/26/2007 6:59:05 AM PDT by LIConFem (Fred Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Duncan Hunter 2008 (VP) ACUR: 92)
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To: veronica
More:
5 posted on 03/26/2007 6:59:21 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: veronica

More:

http://www.amazon.com/Squandered-Opportunities-Yorks-Pataki-Years/dp/1587318040/ref=sr_1_4/103-5435276-1580638?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174917516&sr=1-4


6 posted on 03/26/2007 7:00:12 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: pissant
George Marlin couldn't get elected dog catcher in NY.

He's accomplishing so much waving his fist at the liberal establishment.

7 posted on 03/26/2007 7:04:57 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: pissant
It's worth noting that New York is the only U.S. state with a robust Conservative Party that runs its own candidates in state, county, and local elections.

There's a good reason for this. The Republican Party in New York is so liberal that it would be considered the Communist Party in most other states.

8 posted on 03/26/2007 7:05:02 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Liz; AuntB; Calpernia

PING to a very nice history.


9 posted on 03/26/2007 7:05:45 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: zarf

Not in a state full of commies, he can't.


10 posted on 03/26/2007 7:06:48 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.


11 posted on 03/26/2007 7:07:03 AM PDT by pissant (Crush the treasonous democrats)
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To: veronica
What is this? Someone's term paper?? :)

Maybe Rudy's terminal paper.

12 posted on 03/26/2007 7:08:46 AM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudys not really a conservative now, he's just a liberal in drag.)
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To: zarf
George Marlin couldn't get elected dog catcher in NY. He's accomplishing so much waving his fist at the liberal establishment.

Well, Rudy was able to get elected in NYC on very liberal positions.

Which is fine for New York. But not for the rest of the country. Marlin is much more in tune with Red America than Rudy.

13 posted on 03/26/2007 7:08:48 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Alberta's Child

bump


14 posted on 03/26/2007 7:09:35 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant
This man does have an impressive resume, and he clearly is very anti-Rudy. His choice.

But this is interesting, from his website:

REAGAN

David N. Dinkins, the Democratic candidate, has depicted Mr. Giuliani, former United States Attorney in Manhattan, as a loyal Reagan Republican who carried out the President's agenda that “was painful to our city and our urban centers.” At the same time, Mr. Giuliani has tried to distance himself from the conservative Administration, pointing to occasions when he dissented from its policies and portraying himself as the candidate of a nonpartisan reform movement…. But in his primary campaign, Mr. Giuliani noted frequently that he was supported by the liberal wing of the Republican Party and maintained that he never embraced Mr. Reagan's broad conservative agenda.

On one occasion his campaign staff released a copy of a letter he wrote in June 1984, as United States Attorney in Manhattan, in which he appeared to oppose efforts by the Administration to improperly deny Social Security disability benefits to some recipients. New York Times, October 11, 1989 (Emphasis Added)"

Would you support the improper denial of disability benefits to those in need??

15 posted on 03/26/2007 7:10:08 AM PDT by veronica (Where some in the anti-Rudy crowd get their material > http://www.alternet.org/election04/19673/)
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To: veronica

It's a book: "Rudy Giuliani: Lifelong Liberal" (Marlin) utilize Rudy’s own words, news reports and commentary from both the left and right to prove that contrary to what we’ve been hearing and reading, Rudy Giuliani is what he has always been—a liberal. It is my hope that after reviewing this material, conservatives will take stories of Giuliani’s Damascus Road-like conversion with a grain of salt.
George J. Marlin March 14, 2007


16 posted on 03/26/2007 7:10:33 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: pissant

…most of Clintons Policies are very similar to most of mine... Rudy Giuliani 1996

On Abortion ...I’ve said that I’ll uphold a woman’s right to choice, that I will fund abortions so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right others can exercise… Rudy Giuliani 1989.

On Gun Control ...This is an industry that is profiting from the suffering of innocent people. What’s worse, its profits rest on a number of illegal and immoral practices. This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed... Rudy Giuliani 2000 after filing suit against gun makers and distributors.

On Gun Control ....We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions-and really stronger ones-that exist for driving an automobile... Rudy Giuliani 1997

17 posted on 03/26/2007 7:11:49 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: dirtboy
Rudy was able to manuver and accomplish in a hostile environment.

Big difference between a doer and a whiner.

Marlin bitches about the slow response time of the fire department while Rudy picks up the hose and fights it himself.

Big difference.

18 posted on 03/26/2007 7:13:07 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Alberta's Child

It's worth noting that New York is the only U.S. state with a robust Conservative Party that runs its own candidates in state, county, and local elections.


Maybe if we nominate Rudy, the Conservative Party could become a strong national party.


19 posted on 03/26/2007 7:14:37 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: pissant

This way everyone here can hate him when he becomes President


20 posted on 03/26/2007 7:14:41 AM PDT by woofie
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