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Despite controversy, Disney could unlock 'Song of the South'
lomporecord.com ^ | 03/25/07 | TRAVIS REED

Posted on 03/25/2007 7:43:17 AM PDT by Ellesu

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To: Old Professer
South, the word itself when capitalized has racist undertones and is whispered in polite company up North.

BTW, I have met very few Yankees who had anything even approaching "parlor manners". Their children were routinely saying "Yeah" to their elders while we were being taught to say "Yes Sir" and "Yes M'am", regardless of the race of the elder we addressed. YMMV

101 posted on 03/25/2007 9:41:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

"Ironically, Gone with the Wind is one of the most anti-poor Southern white movies ever made. There are frequent references to "white trash" "




In "Song of the South" there are two white families, the wealthy family, and then the poor family of the two "white trash" boy villains that are maybe 8 and ten years old.

The movie itself is too sweet and wholesome to call the boys white trash, but we know our movie reviewers will use that language to describe the working class whites if the film is re released.

Even in our "sensitive" age, poor white people are openly called white trash, or crackers, or rednecks, even "trailer trash", etc.


102 posted on 03/25/2007 9:53:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (God ate veal, Genesis 18)
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To: uscabjd
"When I was growing up - many years ago - the holiday season would bring, on TV, many of the same old movies"

For me it was the Amos and Andy series.
It was about 1960, and they were on every afternoon
after I got home from school.
As the Kingfish would say, "Dem fish sho is greezy"

They were classic.
103 posted on 03/25/2007 9:54:10 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Ellesu
Pappas said it's not clear that the movie is intentionally racist, but it inappropriately projects Remus as a happy, laughing storyteller even though he's a plantation worker.

So "plantation workers" can be happy laughing storytellers? As the article said, they're not unnecessarily slaves. Today the modern equivalent might be migrant workers. Migrant workers can't be happy, laughing or storytellers either??

104 posted on 03/25/2007 9:58:15 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Ellesu
If you really want to see an entertaining movie of the "Old South" buy the DVD/VHS of Swanee River. Based on the life of Stephan Foster.

If you are a Jolson fan like me you'll especially enjoy it. Jolson plays E. P. Christy in "Black Face".

Jolson was billed as the "Worlds Greatest Entertainer". And he doesn't dissappoint.

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105 posted on 03/25/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: Arkinsaw

I loved this movie as a kid ,as I got older and learned about US history I came to to see there was a lot of hidden satire in the tar baby story


106 posted on 03/25/2007 10:00:04 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: ansel12; All
n "Song of the South" there are two white families, the wealthy family, and then the poor family of the two "white trash" boy villains that are maybe 8 and ten years old.

The movie itself is too sweet and wholesome to call the boys white trash, but we know our movie reviewers will use that language to describe the working class whites if the film is re released.

Even in our "sensitive" age, poor white people are openly called white trash, or crackers, or rednecks, even "trailer trash", etc.

Thank you for reminding me. I had completely forgotten the "white trash" villains of SOTS.

Unfortunately, the poorer the whites, the most hostile they are to Blacks. This is for two reasons: 1)they have always been played against one another, and 2)it is poor whites who have to compete against Blacks in the marketplace (jobs etc.), and they perceive that the plight of Blacks receives a lot of attention and sympathy while they never get any. This leads to the perennial poor white explanation for every failure to get a job or government help: "Our skin wasn't the right color."

In plantation days Ole Massa taught his slaves to hate and despise poor whites. He also told poor whites to hate and despise Blacks (since they are obviously "not like us"). Then he armed poor whites as slave patrollers ("patter-rollers") to punish any slave caught off his plantation without papers. You can imagine how the frustrations of impoverished Southern whites were taken out on such unfortunate persons, who were symbols of the slave system that locked out and impoverished poor whites. Notice that it wasn't Ole Massa who received the brutal beatings but the unfortunate slaves.

Then when the slave made it back to the plantation (assuming he was still alive) Ole Massa told him that he must remain on the plantation for his own safety, since it's the only place where he will be safe from those savage, murderous, barely-human poor whites. You can imagine how grateful the slave was for protection against such monsters.

Poor Whites and Blacks have always deflected their anger onto each other, while the establishment takes the side of first one and then the other. But the basic hostility has not ceased and I begin to despair that it ever will.

107 posted on 03/25/2007 10:03:10 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh, 'Anokhi sholeach lakhem 'et 'Eliyyah HaNavi'; lifnei bo' Yom HaShem HaGadol veHaNora'.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

"I have always wished to hear actual spoken Gullah..."

Audio clips - readings from the Gullah translation of the New Testament:

http://linguafranka.net/gullahbible/

(Links are at the bottom of the page.)


108 posted on 03/25/2007 10:07:06 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Thanks.


109 posted on 03/25/2007 10:09:04 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh, 'Anokhi sholeach lakhem 'et 'Eliyyah HaNavi'; lifnei bo' Yom HaShem HaGadol veHaNora'.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Stephen Collins Foster was actually very pro-Black, which is why he celebrated their culture in his songs (despite his reputation as a "south-o-phile."

Daniel Decatur Emmett, who wrote the song Dixie as a minstrel song, later regretted writing it because it had become "an anthem of treason."

Larry Parks, who played Jolson in The Jolson Story, was a blacklisted Communist. Looks like he's been blacklisted again!

110 posted on 03/25/2007 10:12:36 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh, 'Anokhi sholeach lakhem 'et 'Eliyyah HaNavi'; lifnei bo' Yom HaShem HaGadol veHaNora'.)
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To: Rocko
You had me curious so I found this from wikipedia:

Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (working title: So White and de Sebben Dwarfs) is a Merrie Melodies animated cartoon directed by Bob Clampett, produced by Leon Schlesinger Productions, and released to theatres on January 16, 1943 by Warner Bros. Pictures and The Vitaphone Corporation.

The film is notable for being an all-black parody of the Brothers Grimm fairy tale Snow-White, known to its audience from the popular 1937 Walt Disney animated feature Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The stylistic portrayals of the characters, however, is an example of classic racist darky iconography (see blackface), which was widely accepted in white American society at the time. As such, it is one of the most controversial cartoons in the classic Warner Bros. library, has been rarely seen on television, and has never been officially released on home video. However, it is often named as one of the best cartoons ever made, in part for its African-American-inspired jazz and swing music, and is considered one of Clampett's masterpieces.

111 posted on 03/25/2007 10:16:26 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Rocko

HOLY CRAP LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8124667171424771222&q=physics+game+ageia


112 posted on 03/25/2007 10:22:10 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You are correct on all counts. However Jolson was a conservative Jew who entertained our troops overseas during WWI, WWII and the Korean War. To Korea at his own expense.

His last stint in Korea was blamed for his untimely death. He was in his 60s at the time and the stress of the trip was said to have been the cause of his death.

A true patriot.

FWIW Parks and Jolson didn't get along.

113 posted on 03/25/2007 10:25:51 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

As a poor white I disagree with much of that clichéd, neatly packaged, belief.

Anyway the two poor boys respected the black mans authority, it was the effeminately dressed, rich, white boy that drew their hostility, not the blacks.


114 posted on 03/25/2007 10:30:34 AM PDT by ansel12 (God ate veal, Genesis 18)
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To: Ellesu

They need to release "Dr Syn Alias the Scarecrow" on DVD


115 posted on 03/25/2007 10:33:58 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: Artemis Webb

Nice. Larger screen size than YouTube. It's good to know we can still see this stuff, even if the powers that be refuse to release it and make money.


116 posted on 03/25/2007 10:54:55 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Ellesu

Disney, in their cowardly political correctness, has also edited many of the old comic book stories, refusing to reprint them, or changing them so they are no longer "offensive" (read "funny"). As far back as the 40's, Donald Duck had a dog named "Bolivar", whose name had to be changed because some South Americans claimed this was an insult to Bolivar., the liberator.


117 posted on 03/25/2007 11:00:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: pcottraux

Ping to the Phillip Man.


118 posted on 03/25/2007 12:02:42 PM PDT by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Space for rent.)
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To: Ellesu
I can so vividly remember watching this at a movie theater when I was about 7 years old. I just loved that song "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah." It has stayed in my "musical memory" for all these years.

And no, though I was born and raised in the Deep South, I never saw the movie in racist terms. To me, it was just a beautifully-told tale.

119 posted on 03/25/2007 12:07:15 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Well thanks! See? Whatt'd I tell ya?

I've never seen the movie myself (the PC people have denied me this pleasure), but I did happen to come across some very grainy clips on YouTube. It looks like it may have been one of Disney's best movies. I'd love to see the whole thing...if only...


120 posted on 03/25/2007 12:14:33 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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