Posted on 03/24/2007 10:20:50 AM PDT by westcoastwillieg
HOUSE IMMIGRATION BILL - PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG
The House immigration bill that contains a ‘path to citizenship’ is a stealth amnesty that rewards illegal aliens for breaking our laws. Though not publicized, the motive behind the bill is to provide an endless supply of cheap labor for business plus gardeners, maids and nannies for the rich. If wages are suppressed, profits go up and the rich get richer. As an aside, most of the politicians that support the bill are well off---some are millionaires many times over.
Unfortunately legal immigrants, African-Americans and other low income wage earners have the most to lose and will get the short end of the employment stick. No millionaire, business executive or politician will have to compete for a job with the 10-20 million amnestied aliens but millions of low income Americans will. For this reason most Americans oppose any path to citizenship/amnesty and the politicians are forced to put lipstick on a pig.
When you analyze the arguments for amnesty they have little or no merit; in fact, the politicians have no idea how many illegal aliens will be eligible. Even the president and a gaggle of politicians (with their huge staffs) have no credible arguments and are forced to use bogus arguments such as:
We can’t protect out borders. This is nonsense; of course the U.S. government could control its borders if it wanted to. This isn’t rocket science---we have the technology and resources to do it—what is lacking is the will.
We can’t deport 10-20 million illegal aliens. Many politicians say this bill is better than the alternative of attempting to deport 10-20 million people. The politicians are well aware that no one is seriously talking about or has plans to deport millions of illegal aliens. This is another bogus argument as mass deportations are not the only alternative to amnesty.
What are we going to do with the 10-20 million illegals in the country? The question really should be, “What are the 10-20 million illegal aliens going to do after we secure our borders, eliminate their benefits and punish employers who hire illegal aliens? To read what should be done to encourage reverse migration click (pdf): http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/research_backgrounder_may102006.pdf?docID=981
Illegal aliens do jobs Americans won’t do. More properly stated illegal aliens do jobs Americans won’t do at the low wages offered. Many are unskilled jobs that our high school and college students used to do part time; they include, lawn mowing, washing cars, flipping burgers, baby-sitting, delivering newspapers, etc. Who do they think performed these jobs before illegal aliens flooded our country? This overused bogus argument should be known as, “The jobs Americans won’t do scam.”
We can’t hire enough workers. While similar to ‘The jobs Americans won’t do scam’ this problem, if it exists, can be solved with a Kelly Girl style temporary worker program. There are several of these plans floating around. Most have cash incentives for foreign nationals to return to their country of origin after a one year period of employment.
As yet, no credible arguments have been made that support a path to citizenship/amnesty; in fact, the persuasive arguments (overpopulation, environmental damage, scarcity of resources, cost, etc.) oppose the path to citizenship/amnesty. Most Americans favor the enforcement first approach. Some voter surveys show: 84% say the U.S. should go after employers who hire illegal immigrants 86% say the U.S. should cut off funds to cities and states that refuse to enforce the law
The arguments against path to citizenship/amnesty are many. One of the most persuasive is our countries explosive population growth and its dependence on foreign oil. As each year passes we become more dependent on foreign oil. The amount of energy we require is largely a function of population. Just as two people require more water than one person so it is with energy in a modern society.
By the year 2050, census estimates predict that our population will be over 500,000,000 and by 2100 will exceed ONE BILLION. Behind China and India, the U.S. is the third most populous nation in the world and we’re fast catching up. According to the U.S. Census Bureau our population was 297,821,175 on January 1, 2006 an increase of 2.71 million in only one year.
It should be obvious that as population grows so does the amount of energy we need. To be sure there are ways to conserve but there is a limit to how much we can conserve without self destructing. There is no magic bullet and our dependence on foreign oil will range far into the future. With the rapid industrialization of other areas of the world, natural resources will be in short supply---some already are. Our politicians simply refuse to deal with the massive population growth that is fueling the demand for energy. For some reason politicians and the State Department are intent on dumping as many people as they can onto our shores. Recently our Secretary of State granted an immigration law waiver so that many of the 9,300 Burmese refugees at a camp in Thailand can be considered for resettlement in the United States. If you think our roads, schools, prisons and hospitals are jammed today just wait a few years.
While mass deportations are not seriously being considered, what is being considered is that we get serious about securing our borders and ports, eliminating benefits and punishing employers who hire illegal aliens. Drying up the benefits and job market would encourage many illegals to return to their country of origin. One idea that will speed up reverse migration is a program allowing citizens to receive a reward for reporting employers who hire illegal aliens. Giving a percentage of the fine to the citizen who reports the employer would encourage participation. Splitting the fine with local and state governments (who cooperate) would encourage them to participate. The IRS has a similar program that allows citizens to receive a reward for reporting tax cheats.
In 1986, President Reagan’s well-intentioned amnesty program backfired and encouraged a stampede of illegal aliens to enter the country. It was a major mistake; amnesty failed because politicians who swore to uphold our laws lied and refused to enforce our immigration laws. Twenty years later we have ten times as many illegal aliens as we did in 1986. In spite of what politicians say, another amnesty will only have the same result; simply put, we cannot trust the president or politicians of either party. We tried compassion--it didn’t work--now it’s time for tough love.
Please copy and circulate across the USA.
Why do the lawbreakers deserve "a path to citizenship"? If they truly want to do the jobs Americans are not willing to do, have them provide the labor on the border fence and then send them back.
The author of the house bill being introduced, REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ, has NO idea how many legal 'guest workers' we have allowed in, but he's writing a bill with no figures in mind to get more. Sounds more like gambling to me.
Lou Dobbs Tonight/Broken Borders aired 3/22/07
Lou Dobbs: Let me just show you something, if I may. Because I get kind of curious about this. If we could, let's take a look at the number of people that come into this country legally every year. Can we do that? We'll look at full screen so the congressman can see this.
There's a lot of distortion here. I think it's important to get these facts out.
Two million people legally admitted to the United States each year. In addition - 14 percent of those, by the way, those people given permanent residency are from Mexico. Two million people legally admitted to the United States.
Four hundred thousand skilled foreign workers and their families receive H-1 visas each year.
Nearly 900,000 other legal foreign workers are admitted on some type of employment visa.
Six-hundred sixty thousand student visas are issued every year.
And 455,000 people given temporary employment transfers.
Help me out. What are we trying to do here? I mean, we have a lawful immigration system that brings in 2 million people a year, plus all of these other workers that overwhelms any other immigration system in the world. All of Russia, all of the European Union combined can't even come close to matching our immigration levels. And that's a population 40 percent higher than our own. Help me out.
GUTIERREZ: Well, I can help you out. I will look at those figures. I hope you -- It's a lot. I can't see them up on the screen. I can only ...
DOBBS: I was hoping you could see them?
GUTIERREZ: I can't. I can only look into the camera. I can't see them. I would love to evaluate them, Lou. Come back, talk to you some more about that. But my initial ...But kind of my initial reaction, is a lot of those people overstay their visas. We've got to stop that. And they are compounding the problem of undocumented workers. That's probably why a lot of them cross the border, they come here legally, overstay their visa.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/22/ldt.01.html
Actions and corresponding consequences! Reap, and then sow. Hard to see any easy OUT on this hot potato, but somewhere, sometime, some country will learn that PRINCIPLE, law and order is what sustains a country. Rewarding people who broke the law in the lst place, is a poor precedent. No one apparently learned from the good intentions that Ronald Reagan tried to implement. Here comes the human TSNUMAMI...north
Hereafter undocumented immigrants shall be identified as guest workers. Violations punishable by $10,000 fines and five 11 to 12 years confinement.
I just don't get why they're so obsessed with this path to citizenship crap!!
Stopping illegal immigration should be the first and most immediate step. Let's stop the deluge now - we'll worry about what to do with the water that got in later.
Go see the movie "Amazing Grace" A great power England agonized for many years being slave traders and supporting a colonial economy based on exploited slave labor.
Have times really changed? Do you feel "dirty" to let your fellow man USE illegal alien labor; are you ashamed of your local political, social welfare and church leaders who exploit illegal alien labor for their own PERSONAL interests; are you disgusted with the inefficient squandering of precious local resources for education, health care, criminal justice on illegal aliens while local citizens sacrifice feverishly to try and keep their middle class lifestyle that is daily eroded by federal politicans and globalists.
MOst of the illegals dont want to be citzens in the first place, they owe their allegance to their home land.. plus there is no advantage to becoming a citzen, they are treated like royality now... given more benefits then the US Citzens.
The compromise in 1986 that included amnesty was accompanied with tough immigration enforcement at Reagan's insistence but after he left office Kennedy made sure to gut all the enforcement part. Now this clown who's been around forever it seems is trying to pull another fast one and I'm convinced as Ed Meese has written if RR had to do it over he'd tell Chappaquiddick Ted to go jump into another lake.
You said pass it along? Do you want an Authors name to go with it?
http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=1330
Yet it precisely because we have these programs in the first place that leads politicians (of all stripes) to ignore a groundswell of citicen-animosity of immigrants to begin with. Here's why: immigrants add economic activity and actually improve the GDP per capita in the long run [after just three generations, even the most uneducated immigrant's offspring have 'paid for' themselves and the first two generations in terms of adding to American prosperity]. The demographic figures expressed in this article regarding population growth are key here: without an expanding population, future American workers could not possibly pay for the entitlements that have been promised to those who will not be working. Why is this important? Because without immigrants, our current average fertility rate amongst American females is at approximately 1.7 children in one lifetime -- it takes 2.1 children just to sustain a population (the .1 to account for children deaths before reaching reproductive years). It's only with immigration that we see population continue to grow.
All the other crap about energy requirements and the like are just plain Malthusian in argument and is a non sequitor. This country can continue to expand in population and we will only become more wealthy because of it.
BTW, I saw Johnny Sutton yesterday on AMW. Johnny Sutton is pure evil, a monster who knowingly sends innocent persons to prison while giving a pass to criminals.
While this tactic can work in a debate, it is difficult to do with the written word. Legal immigration easily covers the birth rate disparity #12 harangues the reader about.
As an aside, I don’t think Malthus (1766-1834) had electricity or owned a car—his interests were the effect of food production on population.
I am convinced now more than ever in the past — the America we knew is no more. GW could/should have made steps to stop the invasion, but elected to allow it to continue. I truly believe it is too late to react.
Poster #14 - I couldn't have said it any better.
And what's your education level and in what discipline?
poster #12 is shading the argument so as to assume that legal and illegal immigration are equivalent.
In essence, they are equivalent. And if the system worked properly, it would actually be harder for illegal immigrants to collect government goodies on the taxpaying dime; making them less problematic from an economic standpoint. The 'free' goodies are what's really the problem.
It should be obvious to even the most casual observer that they are not.
Apparently it's not all that obvious to me, then. It wasn't all that obvious to brilliant economists such as Julian Simon either. Perhaps he, too, had a dumbed-down education level in your opinion, right?
As an aside, I don’t think Malthus (1766-1834) had electricity or owned a car—his interests were the effect of food production on population.
Malthusian! As in Chicken-little, doomsday-like, predictive bunk that spews forth from a know-nothing's pie-hole. The term could apply to any person from any era that thinks/speaks from the pessimistic point of view, develops a pessimistic following of lemmings, and is proved wrong later down the line. Think Al Gore.
Do you make it a habit to respond to yourself in message boards and simultaneously pat yourself on the back for what you've written earlier? Or, is it that you have two people -- with similar comprehension levels -- sharing the same account?
"...plus there is no advantage to becoming a citzen, they are treated like royality now... given more benefits then the US Citzens."
Excellent point!
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