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Immigration Backslide Express
The Boston Globe ^ | March 24, 2007

Posted on 03/24/2007 6:15:11 AM PDT by A. Pole

IN 2005, when he was wearing only his senator's hat, Arizona Republican John McCain fearlessly filed a comprehensive immigration bill with Senator Edward Kennedy.

But now that he's a presidential candidate wooing conservative voters, McCain appears hesitant to stand next to his liberal colleague from Massachusetts.

Now is a good time for the two senators to file an updated immigration bill. The country desperately needs reform. President Bush says he wants it. And Democrats control Congress, creating a political opportunity that didn't exist a year ago. But McCain and Kennedy have failed to reach agreement. Aides say they are arguing over labor provisions that were part of last year's Senate bill, which McCain supported. That's disappointing news given that McCain is campaigning aboard the Straight Talk Express.

A McCain spokesperson maintains he isn't walking away. And in a recent op-ed in the New Hampshire Union Leader, McCain calls for stronger borders and a guest worker program. So there's still some hope for a politically powerful consensus.

Fortunately, bipartisan progress on immigration is being made in the House. Congressmen Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican, and Luis Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, have crafted a bill called the STRIVE Act, for Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy.

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McCain praises the bill's leadership. Now he and like-minded fellow presidential candidates should use their political power to push for fast legislative action.

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(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; flake; gutierrez; illegal; immigration; mccain; striveact
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1 posted on 03/24/2007 6:15:12 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
a bill called the STRIVE Act, for Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy

STRIVE Act bump!

2 posted on 03/24/2007 6:16:20 AM PDT by A. Pole (If you hate America, support open borders, free trade, war with Iran and sexual Diversity!)
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To: A. Pole

Vibrant economy. Sure thing. Unless you happen to be a laborer, then they're going to vibrant your ass right on to welfare.


3 posted on 03/24/2007 6:19:31 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: A. Pole

STRIVE'ing to lower wages.


4 posted on 03/24/2007 6:25:25 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: A. Pole

Mc cain = amnesty.No getting around that. He has made his bed as far as Im concerned. Thonpson/hunter ticket sounds great!


5 posted on 03/24/2007 6:47:17 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: A. Pole

"Aides say they are arguing"

Pray for pistols at 20 paces.


6 posted on 03/24/2007 6:51:45 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Hydroshock

Lower wages are good for the economy - keeps inflation in check.


7 posted on 03/24/2007 7:06:30 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Lower wages are not good for the economy if you are teh one making them. My leading economic indicator is my wallet.


8 posted on 03/24/2007 7:09:49 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: A. Pole

STRIVEing to reward lawbreakers and punish citizens and legal immigrants with lower education levels.

I pray the "average" citizen gets really mad about this soon.


9 posted on 03/24/2007 7:59:30 AM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Hydroshock

What you put in your wallet depends on the skills you have acquired and knowledge you have gained.


10 posted on 03/24/2007 8:01:09 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: pennboricua
What you put in your wallet depends on the skills you have acquired and knowledge you have gained.

This is not true, not completely. Also, artificially depressing wages by using slaves(in this case illegals)is not good for the economy unless you happen to be the farmer or other recipient of the slave's labors.

Employing illegals is tantamount to having slaves, due to the extremely low wages paid them, making a poor class of Americans who simply can't afford to live on the wages paid by those hiring illegals.

Lower wages for only part of the population is extremely bad for the economy overall. Slave labor has always led to the downfall of the civilizations that utilized the slaves. Having a poor class that can't get jobs because the slaves are doing them can in no way be termed "good for the economy". This is the situation we face today in America, if you can't see that you are either an illegal, relative of illegals or employ illegals in your business, the forth possibility is that you are just stupid.

11 posted on 03/24/2007 8:15:14 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
if you can't see that you are either an illegal, relative of illegals or employ illegals in your business, the forth possibility is that you are just stupid.

There is the fifth possibility - that you are brainwashed by the Free Market cult.

12 posted on 03/24/2007 8:49:40 AM PDT by A. Pole (If you hate America, support open borders, free trade, war with Iran and sexual Diversity!)
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To: calex59

Whoa my are you profound and quite the intellect at that.
This is the country in which many people even while enslaved
rose above their situation through their own endevours, even to this day those that face similar situation do likewise through their own will and determination, one of the recurring skits on saturday night live, was the Jamaican family that not only drove the Taxi, cleaned the bedpans in the hospitals but also attended the University.
This is not just a skit but reality in this country.
What the problem nowadays is, is that people like you have determined that a minimum wage job should provide all the upkeep for the family earning those wages.
When I first entered the work force in the 60s those jobs were posted as entry level positions, you as an individual chose how much progress through sacrifice you were willing to achieve.


13 posted on 03/24/2007 8:58:54 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: pennboricua
This is the country in which many people even while enslaved rose above their situation through their own endeavors

It is not unique for this country. Talented slaves advanced in other places as well. In ancient Rome some even became emperors.

14 posted on 03/24/2007 9:06:54 AM PDT by A. Pole (If you hate America, support open borders, free trade, war with Iran and sexual Diversity!)
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To: A. Pole

True enough and I bet it took will and determination.


15 posted on 03/24/2007 9:22:11 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: pennboricua
What you put in your wallet depends on the skills you have acquired and knowledge you have gained.

Explain American techies being forced to train in their Indian replacements..."because there are not enough Americans with the vital skills".

If the Americans don't have the skills, why are they the ones doing the training?

Hint: Consider the famous quote from Brian Valentine of Microsoft: "Think India! Two for the price of one!"

And then look at the POS that is Vista, how much was shamelessly plagiarized from Apple, and how many features promised to be in Longhorn were dropped.

Nice try, though.

16 posted on 03/24/2007 9:29:19 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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The author of the house bill being introduced, REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ, has NO idea how many legal 'guest workers' we have allowed in, but he's writing a bill with no figures in mind to get more. Sounds more like gambling to me.

Lou Dobbs Tonight/Broken Borders aired 3/22/07

Lou Dobbs: Let me just show you something, if I may. Because I get kind of curious about this. If we could, let's take a look at the number of people that come into this country legally every year. Can we do that? We'll look at full screen so the congressman can see this.

There's a lot of distortion here. I think it's important to get these facts out.

Two million people legally admitted to the United States each year. In addition - 14 percent of those, by the way, those people given permanent residency are from Mexico. Two million people legally admitted to the United States.
Four hundred thousand skilled foreign workers and their families receive H-1 visas each year.

Nearly 900,000 other legal foreign workers are admitted on some type of employment visa.

Six-hundred sixty thousand student visas are issued every year.

And 455,000 people given temporary employment transfers.

Help me out. What are we trying to do here? I mean, we have a lawful immigration system that brings in 2 million people a year, plus all of these other workers that overwhelms any other immigration system in the world. All of Russia, all of the European Union combined can't even come close to matching our immigration levels. And that's a population 40 percent higher than our own. Help me out.

GUTIERREZ: Well, I can help you out. I will look at those figures. I hope you -- It's a lot. I can't see them up on the screen. I can only ...

DOBBS: I was hoping you could see them?

GUTIERREZ: I can't. I can only look into the camera. I can't see them. I would love to evaluate them, Lou. Come back, talk to you some more about that. But my initial ...But kind of my initial reaction, is a lot of those people overstay their visas. We've got to stop that. And they are compounding the problem of undocumented workers. That's probably why a lot of them cross the border, they come here legally, overstay their visa.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/22/ldt.01.html


17 posted on 03/24/2007 9:32:56 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: grey_whiskers
And then look at the POS that is Vista, how much was shamelessly plagiarized from Apple

Quite a few new features in IE7 were lifted from Firefox and they couldn't even get that right.

18 posted on 03/24/2007 9:35:59 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: AuntB

Gutierrez conveniently ignored the main point made by Dobbs that we're already importing a huge number of people, why do we need more? In the fantasy world of Gutierrez the US as a dumping ground for the world can take in everyone and while we're doing that and anchors babies are being dropped by the millions we'll get on that DHS to enforce the law, sure we will.


19 posted on 03/24/2007 9:44:05 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

People seemed to have forgotten how a free enterprise system works, the consumer dictates the market, although there have been instances when a need has been established through marketing or a fad product has been introduced.
We the consumer decide to either purchase from Microsoft or Apple from Ford or Nissan and so on.


20 posted on 03/24/2007 9:45:50 AM PDT by pennboricua
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