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Top general in Afghanistan expels Marines
The Examiner (Washington, D.C.) ^ | Mar 23, 2007 11:52 A | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 03/24/2007 4:48:47 AM PDT by RoadTest

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - The top American general in Afghanistan has expelled a U.S. Marine special operations company for the way the men responded to an ambush March 4, Marine sources said.

Maj. Cliff Gilmore, a spokesman for Marine Special Operations Command, confirmed to The Examiner that the company of 120 Marines is redeploying.

He said the decision followed an ambush on the company's convoy by a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device. A second Marine source said the Marines retaliated and some civilians were killed.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: afghanhighway; afghanistan; defendourmarines; marines; marsoc; war
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Here we go again . . .
1 posted on 03/24/2007 4:48:48 AM PDT by RoadTest
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To: RoadTest

When you go to war you cannot tell troops who to shoot on the battlefield. and you cant cut the legs out from under them afterward.


2 posted on 03/24/2007 4:51:52 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: RoadTest

bttt


3 posted on 03/24/2007 4:53:05 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tagline.)
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To: RoadTest

Whatever you do, fellas, don't shoot back. FGS!


4 posted on 03/24/2007 4:55:23 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: RoadTest

Would we better off expelling all the JAGs instead?


5 posted on 03/24/2007 4:57:00 AM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: RoadTest

So our guys have to get a rule book out every time they are ambushed???


6 posted on 03/24/2007 4:57:13 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: RoadTest

Never mentioned is the fact that they have to fight combattants who wear no military uniforms.


7 posted on 03/24/2007 4:59:53 AM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: ducdriver

citizens shouldn't allow the bad guys in


8 posted on 03/24/2007 5:02:01 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: sure_fine

followup,,,, when they do, the citizen is part of problem

Marines are problem solvers


9 posted on 03/24/2007 5:02:50 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought processâ„Ãâ)
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To: Bahbah

Perhaps the "top American general" should be "re-deployed"
instead.....to Berkeley!

The war will NEVER be won as long as political correctness and stupid-ass liberalism replaces a sound, aggressive military strategy.


10 posted on 03/24/2007 5:05:27 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My Number One Goal in Life is to Leave a Bigger Carbon Foot Print Than Al Gore)
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To: RoadTest
A Marine officer assigned to special operations said Lt. Gen. Karl Eikenberry, the top U.S. commander, took the extraordinary step of expelling the unit after he consulted with Afghan Prime Minister Hamid Karzai.

Another PC general. I hope this is Eikenberrys last posting, he's a danger to the men under his command.

11 posted on 03/24/2007 5:07:13 AM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: RoadTest

I suppose this is better than sending prosecutors in to trump up charges against them. The USA will never win another war until the troops are relieved of the burden of being PC, having embedded lawyers, embedded journalists, and rules of engagement that conform to European or French standards.


12 posted on 03/24/2007 5:14:58 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: RoadTest

It was the intelligent thing to do.


13 posted on 03/24/2007 5:19:32 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: BuffaloJack
The USA will never win another war until the troops are relieved of the burden of being PC

True enough. But unfortunately the only way that'll ever happen is if America finds itself fighting for its very survival. ....which it is, of course, but most Americans don't yet realize it.

14 posted on 03/24/2007 5:21:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: RoadTest

Unfortunately, this sort of PCism is a hallmark of the ruling elites (who are clearly more highly evolved than the rest of us) of both parties in this country. Its an evil thing to ask the military to fight and die, or come home in pieces, under men like this but for heaven's sake don't do what they need to do to protect themselves and win.


15 posted on 03/24/2007 5:31:29 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: RoadTest
We're being treated like two-year olds that have been given a 'time out' and sent to our rooms.

Dear President Bush,
Could we please just nuke the bastards?

Sincerely,
knarf

16 posted on 03/24/2007 5:33:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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Dear President Bush,
Could we please just nuke the bastards?

Amen, brother.

17 posted on 03/24/2007 5:36:39 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: knarf

Normally I might side with conventional weapons over nukes, but the animals we are fighting are just animals. It we started using small tactical nukes every time we got a report of OBL it might finally sink in to these animals that we mean business and they might give him up out of self preservation. The world opinion would condemn us, but we are a superpower. What good is it is you are a superpower and don't act like one.
The war will be won when the civilian population both fears and hates us. They hate us already. Giving them something to fear is what is needed now. They have no incentive to turn in the bad guys.


18 posted on 03/24/2007 5:42:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: RoadTest
It's a devil's deal, when you're caught in an ambush like this.

Do you simply take your losses and run away? That's the preferred Army doctrine. It avoids civilian casualties, but it also establishes a hunter/hunted relationship with the enemy in the hunter position. That's a direct mental victory for them, and a loss for us. It also encourages them to use these tactics, for years on end.

Do you attempt to engage your attackers? Hard to do when you don't know who they are, hiding as they do among civilians. They're not afraid to die, and they're not only willing to sacrifice civilians, they're trying to get us to kill them on accident. Events like this and Haditha aren't lucky coincidences for them. It's doctrine. Captured training manuals state they are directed to try and engineer *atrocities* that our media will pick up on.

No matter what you do, that media is there, ready to announce your sins to the world, while the Inquisitors from JAG ready the gallows.

"Victory" has long ago been replaced by "don't cause bad press". That's our policy now, and our side won't hesitate to crucify you over it.

19 posted on 03/24/2007 5:45:55 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: RoadTest

Our Generals have become nut-less politicians and ceased to be warriors. The days of "Blood and Guts" Patton are long gone.


20 posted on 03/24/2007 5:47:13 AM PDT by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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