Posted on 03/22/2007 11:28:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
...We constantly present the false impression that government can solve problems that government in America was designed not to solve. Families are significantly less important in the development of children today than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Religion has less influence than it did 30 or 40 years ago. Communities don't mean what they meant 30 or 40 years ago.
As Americans, we're not sure we share values. We're sometimes even afraid to use the word values. We talk about teaching ethics in schools -- people say, "What ethics? Whose ethics? Maybe we can't." And they confuse that with teaching of religion. And we are afraid to reaffirm the basics upon which a lawful and a decent society are based. We're almost embarrassed by it.
.... What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
... The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government.
... They are going to have to be just as solid and just as strong in teaching every single youngster their responsibility for citizenship. We're going to find the answer when schools once again train citizens. Schools exist in America and have always existed to train responsible citizens of the United States of America.
If they don't do that, it's very hard to hold us together as a country, because it's shared values that hold us together.
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"Really?
Where?"
Every time someone addresses you and you try to shift the argument to something else. It's a sure sign of someone on the losing end of an argument.
And the funny thing is you started off that way by trying to make it about "authority or anarchy", in complete contrast to the actual postings to the people you're trying to take on.
"Regulating."
So was he regulating the NY militia?
Simple question...how do you maintain freedom without the presence of authority?
Second question...considering the overabundance of laws, from the Federal Constitution, to Federal codes, to State Constitutions, to State codes, then County and municipal regulations, and every other set of laws that we live under in this country, how can you actually claim that we don't cede a GREAT DEAL of our freedoms to the authorities?
It could be a bit faster if I didn't care about spelling or checking for glaring grammatical errors. Not trying to show off the typing skills though!
What about the liberty of the child who is brutally killed and ripped from the womb, and the posterity that would have followed them in their generations? Do their rights mean nothing? The framers of the Constitution took them into account, and gave them, and us, equal standing with themselves. Read the Preamble to the Constitution carefully, and you will see that this is so.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I don't care who the media annoints. I never got the impression they were pushing McCain for any other reason than to defeat Bush. I don't see them pushing Giuliani because they want to defeat another front-runner. Which other front-runner is there?
U.S. Code
Section 311. Militia: composition and classes (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are - (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
"Simple question...how do you maintain freedom without the presence of authority? "
Dear sweet lord, are you going back to that yet again?
Why are you wasting my time when I've already address that question, and you've refused to address mine?
When are you going to get around to explaining your first post on this thread?
I don't give 100% credence to any screenname. You could be an Irish female. Your gender and ethnic background are not of concern to me.
Your de facto allegiance is all I seek to determine. Is it to the United States of America?
Even the Bible doesn't support the contention that a fertilized egg is entitled to the same status as a child or an adult.
There were two questions in my reswponse...whay do you continue to ignore the second one?
"Send no money to the RNC. Send money to your favorite candidate."
That's exactly what I do. I'd rather pick the candidate than have the RNC pick a candidate for me.
"So was he regulating the NY militia?"
Yes, he was doing that by taking away all their guns!
And for the constitutionally ignorant out there, "regulated" at the time of the founding was more in line with "well equipped". The founders wanted to make sure the militia was well equipped with guns, not that their guns were taken away from them by government regulations!
Show me where you've asked this same question of anyone else in this forum.
The word "posterity" goes much further than just the unborn, or a "fertilized egg." It includes those who are yet unconceived. So, your argument means nothing.
We do. No doubt about it. And that's what Rudy is promising us.
It's my opinion that we've already ceded way too much freedom.
I'd prefer less government control and more personal responsibility.
I like that term. Good one! I can really have some fun tweaking some of the libs other places I go with that one.
"The unorganized militia of the State of New York.
U.S. Code
Section 311. Militia: composition and classes (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are - (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."
Thank you, I practically know it by heart.
So you are saying that when Julie "used gun control" in NYC he was regulating an unorganized militia?
Changing the school system to teach personal responsibility. That's a start. Same with Congress.
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