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Spanish 'El Pais' left-wing journalist blames Poland for Holocaust (Poles respond: It's ridiculous)
Polish Radio External Service ^ | March 21, 2007 | Joanna Najfeld

Posted on 03/21/2007 11:31:07 AM PDT by JoAnka

In her article published in the large Spanish El Pais daily, Pilar Rahola, left-wing politician and journalist accused Poland of participation in the Holocaust. Poles are taken aback.

Poland is responsible for mass genocide of two-thirds of the European Jewish population, the current Polish government oppresses the people by making them come clean about their communist past and discrimination of all sorts flourishes in the heart of Europe, claims a radical leftist journalist and politician in a controversial article published in the Spanish El Pais daily. It's ridiculous, judgmental and totally at odds with facts, responds the Polish side.

Paweł Zalewski, head of the Parliamentary Committee for Foreign Affairs, suggests that the El Pais article author, Pilar Rahola might want to take an educational trip to Poland to see how absurd her accusations are:

'All the theses presented in the article are absurd. It's very difficult to discuss with them. The only reaction could be to invite the author of this article to Poland. I think that this lady has never been to our country. Probably visiting it personally she would realize that the actual situation here is totally different that what she described in her text.'

Polish MEP and history professor Wojciech Roszkowski shares Paweł Zalewski's reception of Rahola's claims:

'To quote some of the theses of Ms. Rahola would be enough to show what kind of quality of journalism she presents. She wrote that Poland played a key role in these operations that led to the extermination of 2/3 of the whole Jewish population in Europe and I ask her how could Poles exterminate Jews in Europe while they were occupied by the Nazis.'

One of the other issues in Rahola's article was the juxtaposition of the accusations of anti-semitism and the so-called 'homophobia'. Professor Roszkowski finds this intentional and symptomatic:

'It's very fashionable today to compare the so-called "homophobia" with anti-semitism. I strongly reject these accusations. Homophobia is a term invented by the gay and lesbian community to present this community as an oppressed community. And this is absurd. It's a result of a long series of promotion of the gay and lesbian style of life. It's already twenty years that this manifesto of the gay and lesbian movement was designed: first, to speak as often as possible about this community, to always present them as victims, and to present those who stick to the traditional values and traditional moral standards as oppressors, to present them in one line with the Nazis, with war criminals and so on. It's absolutely unacceptable.'

The article in El Pais also attacked Poland's recent vetting, or 'lustration' law. History Professor Wojciech Roszkowski was stunned at the level of what he evaluates as factual ignorance displayed in that accusation:

'Ms. Rahola presents our new vetting law as a violation of human rights. You know, she doesn't know what she's talking about. She hasn't read the law and she doesn't know at all what vetting is all about. And also, she has no idea whatsoever about what the former communist security apparatus was. So, I would prefer that she simply kept silent on things that she has no idea about whatsoever.'

Pilar Rahola is a former deputy for the Spanish parliament where she represented a radical left-wing party. She has also worked as a reporter and is just a contributor, not a full time employee of El Pais. But it's not the first time that El Pais gives voice to these kinds of radical attacks on Poland, says Professor Roszkowski:

'It has already been many times that El Pais published articles criticizing not only this or that Polish government but Poland as a nation, Poland en bloc. And now Ms. Rahola exceeded all limits of ignorance, bad will and prejudice. My conclusion is that although it's a daily of the largest circulation in Spain, the quality of journalism in this paper and the control of these articles by the editor in chief, puts it in one category with the worst tabloids.'

The El Pais daily defends the publication saying that the paper presents many opinions. It also promises to publish letters questioning Pilar Rahola's beliefs.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; communists; homophobia; leftistsrevionism; poland
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To: APRPEH
Yeah. Except one small detail... Bulgaria was an ally of Germany (not very active and later switched sides, but still...) If Poland had been as "cool", nazis would have probably won WW2.
41 posted on 03/22/2007 7:56:55 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: APRPEH

Yawn...


43 posted on 03/22/2007 7:58:49 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Quick or Dead
>>>> I just enjoy pointing how how in Russia alone the Communists racked up higher body counts than the Nazis did, to say nothing of the Communists in China and Southeast Asia.<<<<<

Sadly, both Soviet Communists and Nazis were brought to power owing to U.S. bankers bankrolling their scheme to the powergrab. The cost of bring Communist terror to Russia was $20M.

Ho Chi Mihn also came to power owing to U.S. support.

What we are witnessing now, the painting the Poles with a tar brush is dangerous because it is orchestrated actions.

It seems that Hilter's work to destroy Poland is not finished yet.

44 posted on 03/22/2007 8:56:21 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: APRPEH; lizol
We can not deny the dark past of the Poles, the very fact that the Holocaust DID happen on Polish soil says all too much about local aid to extermination of most Jews in Europe, though we have to remember the righteous, as well as the fact that the Poles suffer from the German Nazis too.
45 posted on 03/22/2007 12:03:24 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic
"the very fact that the Holocaust DID happen on Polish soil says all too much about local aid to extermination of most Jews in Europe"

Of course. The fact, that Poland had the largest Jewish population in Europe has nothing to do with that.

It would be much easier for the Germans to transport those several millions of Jews from Poland to let's say - France, if only those French were not so supportive and helpful to the Jewish people.

Or maybe I'm wrong? Maybe it was the French, who rounded up their Jewish people and sent them to "the Polish soil"??? (sarcasm)
46 posted on 03/22/2007 12:17:59 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: PRePublic

As to local aid - see post #31.

Would you risk your life, and your wife/husband's, and your children's - to help someone else?

Maybe you would, maybe you're a natural born hero.

I don't know if I would. I hope so, but I don't know.
I'm really happy, that I don't live in those circumstances and don't have to make such choices.


47 posted on 03/22/2007 12:22:40 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol; PRePublic
And so was another myth developed, the Jews were blamed again for Stalin's subjugation of Poland. This myth is still reverberating through the acrimonious discussions on the Internet. Before the war, about 3.5 million Jews lived in Poland. Today, there in Poland no more than 15,000 Jews, out of a population of 38 millions. Although, small in numbers the Jews are noticed in Poland. Their presence is felt in the press, during the elections opponents accuse each other of Jewish origin. Somehow, one has an impression that the Poles feel that they are victimized by . . . the Jews. For example, a taxi driver told me that "All the banks in Poland are owned by Jews. The Jews control everything."
Alexander Kimel

but its not just Poland. Jewish history in Central and Eastern Europe had its ups and downs. Poland was a center of Jewish life for centuries. since the borders of Poland were fluid and re-written so often before WWII, whether one wishes to blame the Russians or others for the persecutions that took place, it still took place. it is impossible to remove the Shoah from the totality of European history as an accident or anomaly. it was indeed the pivotal of 1,000 years of history

here is the short list....

48 posted on 03/22/2007 1:01:25 PM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that....)
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To: lizol
As to local aid - see post #31. Would you risk your life, and your wife/husband's, and your children's - to help someone else? Maybe you would, maybe you're a natural born hero. I am not talking about those forced 'not to help'.

I am speaking about those Poles that deliberately gave out Jews not out of fear but out of hatred, those that lived with them for more than a thousand years, those that laughed & cheered on when the Jews were carried away to the 'one way' point of never return.

However, because of the sacrifice of the few that did save Jews in spite the danger from the Nazis, my hat to THOSE righteous Poles! I don't know if I would, I am happy I am not in this situation, your words, my agreement...

49 posted on 03/22/2007 1:04:27 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: APRPEH
See also: Jews VS Communism
50 posted on 03/22/2007 1:10:38 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: APRPEH

LOL ! At some level zoological anti-Polonism is getting really funny.


51 posted on 03/22/2007 1:18:26 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: PRePublic
Not necessary. We all know that Jews were the greatest anti-commie warriors in the world.
52 posted on 03/22/2007 1:20:50 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: APRPEH
For example, a taxi driver told me that "All the banks in Poland are owned by Jews. The Jews control everything.

Yep. Mel Gibson has said something like this too.

So what?

Is that supposed to mean, that Americans in general are anti-semitists?
53 posted on 03/22/2007 1:24:38 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: PRePublic
We can not deny the dark past of the Poles, the very fact that the Holocaust DID happen on Polish soil says all too much about local aid to extermination of most Jews in Europe

The fact that the Holocaust did NOT happen on German soil says much about philo-Semitism among German society. It is also worth to remember how Polish torpedoed massive anti-communist activity of the Jewish underground resistance.

54 posted on 03/22/2007 1:25:28 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: PRePublic
As to those "FEW"

The fact, that 1/3 of the total number of the Yad Vashem's Righteous Among the Nations are Polish (despite of circumstances like those described in post #31) is in your opinion a pure coincidence probably. Right?

FYI - Poland was the only country in occupied Europe, where if one helped a Jew (for example gave them shelter) - and the Germans found out about it - they were immediately both killed, together with entire family of the helper.

It's so easy to condemn the others, while sitting in USA in 2007.
55 posted on 03/22/2007 1:32:55 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol
The fact, that 1/3 of the total number of the Yad Vashem's Righteous Among the Nations are Polish (despite of circumstances like those described in post #31) is in your opinion a pure coincidence probably. Right?

I am so glad to hear that, you cheer me up, I now can grab this and show it to my Polish great wonderful friends in Chicago.

56 posted on 03/22/2007 1:35:31 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: lizol
It's so easy to condemn the others, while sitting in USA in 2007. I have my mind full of the CURRENT danger, that of Islamofascism, which we are ALL in danger of.

I visited Warsaw last summer, I loved it!

57 posted on 03/22/2007 1:37:42 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: lizol
that Yad Vashem exists and acknowledges those who were courageous in the fight of good vs. evil, yes proves that it was possible to resist. and the numbers of Jews in Poland, (which has been stated in earlier posts)provided more opportunity for heroes.

please provide evidence:
Poland was the only country in occupied Europe, where if one helped a Jew (for example gave them shelter) - and the Germans found out about it - they were immediately both killed, together with entire family of the helper.

58 posted on 03/22/2007 1:45:30 PM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that....)
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To: JoAnka

The Polish King was the one who invited the Jews who were kicked out of Iberia into his country in 1492.


59 posted on 03/22/2007 1:47:18 PM PDT by montag813
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To: lizol
I just posted this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1805177/posts Senate honors Holocaust heroine [from Poland]

60 posted on 03/22/2007 1:52:20 PM PDT by PRePublic
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