[blam]

GGG Ping.

[muawiyah]

Entirely believable. The Portuguese actually attempted to colonize Labarador in 1521.

[VOA]

"The Portuguese were obsessed with secrecy because of their rivalry
with Spain," Mr Trickett said. "They didn't colonise Australia
because they didn't have the manpower or the resources, and then
their empire started to collapse."

IMHO, the Portuguese just didn't have the genius of the British.

Use hardened convicts to tame a tough land so that it could become
a fairly civilized country.

(I'm not knocking the Portugese...but in retrospect that could
be one version of what this history teaches us. Besides, the
Portugese were busy with Brazil and other far-flung outposts.)

[Cold Heart]

Early paperwork on exploration was often cryptic to protect finds. Another trick was to redefine the length of a mile (or other measure) in order to claim more land.
Sometimes charts and books were altered after the expedition. One account of a Spanish wreck on the US West Coast had the Spanish government declare all the charting & paper work from the voyage to be voided due to their suspicions.

[RobbyS]

There is also speculation that the Portuguese also reached North America before Columbus' expedition that discovered America.

[HitmanLV]

Captain Cook is scuppered by book

Hey, hey, hey! Lets keep this discussion PG-13!!! It's still family hour out on the west coast!

[Cacique]

btt

[omnivore]

The Portuguese probably didn't set up a colony because they didn't find any gold. The Dutch found gold on New Guinea and made it part of the Dutch East Indies.

[RightWhale]

That's more like it. Both England and Portugal were deep in trade with North and South America respectively long before Columbus, and that is practically current events.

[RightWhale]

On the coast of western Africa is a very, very ancient stone pier. Nobody seems to know whose it was or when it was in use.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam.

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[SunkenCiv]

just a quickie on Phoenician vessels:

The Marsala Punic Warship
Römisch-Germanisches Zentralmuseum | circa 1999 | Honor Frost
Posted on 04/13/2006 3:31:09 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1614591/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Ancient Celtic / Scottish Viking sites in New Zealand!(?)
The Little Doctors & Martin Doutré? | October 2003
Posted on 04/11/2006 12:19:16 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1613129/posts

[DieHard the Hunter]

There is a NZ amateur archaeologist who has postulated that the Phoenicians charted most of the globe well before the Lake Taupo eruption (including OZ and NZ and the west coast of North America) -- based on rock carvings that he has found in the vicinity, purportedly from their "settlement". One of these carvings is a remarkably accurate map of the world. He lives just up the road from me.

I've read his book, seen his rock carving reproductions, and he is very possibly right -- if so, it's an amazing find, completely unlike anything modern Civilization had previously thought to be the pattern of Pacific exploration and settlement.

All I can say is "nothing surprises me anymore." Or as someone in the Old Country once wrote "In Erthe and Skye and Sea, Straynge Thyngs there Be..."

*DieHard*

[Little Ray]

Doesn't really matter who discovers what - it matters who colonizes it and exploits it.

[SunkenCiv]

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