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Subsidized Houses for Rich People
NY Times ^ | March 18, 2007 | EDWARD LEWINE

Posted on 03/20/2007 12:38:22 AM PDT by Lorianne

Next time you sit down to write your monthly mortgage or rent check, consider this: In Santa Barbara, about 90 miles northwest of Los Angeles, a public-private partnership is planning to build a subsidized-housing development for some families earning as much as $177,000.

“It does sound unusual,” admitted Rob Pearson, the executive director of the city’s Housing Authority, which helped broker the deal for the development, to be called Los Portales. “But Santa Barbara is getting Gucci-fied. If we don’t do something, we’ll lose our middle class.”

The problem seems to be a matter of supply and demand, made worse by geography and public policy. With its stunning location, vibrant cultural scene and proximity to Los Angeles, Santa Barbara is a hot place to live. But the city is confined by the Pacific Ocean and the Santa Ynez Mountains, and strict zoning means that its 17 square miles are legally almost built out. The nearest affordable town is some 30 miles away.

City officials say they’ve worked to provide affordable homes for lower-income residents; about 12 percent of local housing stock falls into this category, much of it subsidized with public money. But with the average median home price in the Santa Barbara area hovering around $1.2 million, many well-employed citizens are finding it tough to buy a home.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; housing; realestate; santabarbara; subsidizedhousing
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1 posted on 03/20/2007 12:38:24 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

If it's becoming too expensive, maybe they should move out. On second thought, I think we'll rather have them stay just where they are, in sunny 'old California.


2 posted on 03/20/2007 12:42:35 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
You think a better solution is, perhaps, to relax zoning restriction? From the article:

[...] strict zoning means that its 17 square miles are legally almost built out.

3 posted on 03/20/2007 12:50:05 AM PDT by WingBolt
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To: Lorianne

Actually, it says "no taxpayer dollars will be used". So,
I don't see a problem...


4 posted on 03/20/2007 12:52:43 AM PDT by WingBolt
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To: WingBolt
we have exactly the same problem in the Keys .... it's pushed a trailer up to about 500K ... and they have a housing authority which sits on hundreds of units well below the density ... of course the people who work for the housing authority can't afford housing so they live in the housing authority housing ... and are paid to maintain the housing authority property

our tax dollars at 'work'

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5 posted on 03/20/2007 1:26:41 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: WingBolt

They have contradictory statements.

They also say this:

"much of it subsidized with public money."

Where does public money come from, if not from taxpayers?


6 posted on 03/20/2007 1:44:25 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: Lorianne

A family income of $177,000. is not "rich".


7 posted on 03/20/2007 2:44:00 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

A family income of $177,000. is not "rich".

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Probably not, but it is about equal to what was projected as the lifetime earnings of a high school graduate of my era. Ain't inflation wonderful?


8 posted on 03/20/2007 4:06:35 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

My wife and I together make less than that by quite a bit and I still wouldn't consider that even close to rich. We all better be careful about allowing government or anyone else to put a specific number on "rich".


9 posted on 03/20/2007 4:21:50 AM PDT by nativist
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To: nativist

The government's definition of a rich person: Anyone who draws a paycheck.


10 posted on 03/20/2007 4:23:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
The sorry thing is how easily they can pit people against each other.

My friend once told me that the gov't should pay for health care. I asked him how much jail time I should get if I refused to pay his or any others health care. I told him that if he needed help just ask me.

That said he also was pissed at how much money the people who won the lottery were getting and that it should only be 1 million and the rest should go to the government.

He makes a decent living but he's the type of guy who can be swayed by the evil Dems.

11 posted on 03/20/2007 4:36:34 AM PDT by nativist
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To: nativist
He sounds as dumb as my BIL - it can be very frustrating to deal with people like that.

Carolyn

12 posted on 03/20/2007 4:59:07 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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Yeah, his parents bought a worthless piece of property on Orcas island 20 years ago that is probably worth a million bucks today and he can't grasp that the people he supports would demonize his parents and pit those like him against them. Other than the property the are very middle class. Hell he even bought a 125,000 dollar home that is now probably worth 300,000 but he can't comprehend those kind of things.


13 posted on 03/20/2007 5:04:54 AM PDT by nativist
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To: Lorianne

False title!

You can SEE from the article it's NOT for the RICH!

If we don’t do something, we’ll lose our middle class.”

14 posted on 03/20/2007 5:10:11 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

>>>A family income of $177,000. is not "rich".

It would place that household in the top 5% of household income nationwide. In 2005, the lower limit on the top 5% was $166,000.


15 posted on 03/20/2007 6:04:39 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: Lorianne
Visited a site yesterday.

Multi story, downtown condo project replacing business buildings. 60+ units. 8 available for the middle class lottery. 400 locals qualified for lottery.

Lucky winner gets $1.5M, 2 bedroom, condo for $750K. City of SB has first right of refusal on resale at a price they dictate.

Developer gave up excess profit on 8 units in return for redevelopment permit. City and County of Santa Barbara give up higher taxes on 8 units.

16 posted on 03/20/2007 6:23:51 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion

Good point, I missed that about "public money". Sloppy
reading (by me) and sloppy reporting (by the reporter).
Indeed, what does it mean?


17 posted on 03/20/2007 2:22:51 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: nativist
That said he also was pissed at how much money the people who won the lottery were getting and that it should only be 1 million and the rest should go to the government.

Uh, the whole point of the lottery payout is that the gov't gets far more from the lottery tickets (plus, winnings are taxable, and I think many people are either greedy or not savvy enough and want a lump sum payout where the taxes go much higher). That's kind of a silly argument.

18 posted on 03/20/2007 2:25:42 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
A family income of $177,000. is not "rich".

Yeah, but you're splitting hairs, I'd say. It's still far more than your regular Joe makes. In most of the country, that kind of money is more than TRIPLE the average household income. Even in much of california, it's more than double the average.

19 posted on 03/20/2007 3:58:30 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Total domination over all kingdoms under heaven will be given to the saints of YHVH. -- Daniel 7:27)
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To: Lorianne

There ought to be subsidized housing projects in Santa Barbara. Ought to have housing projects for welfare recipients of the type these smug people have been foisting on others for decades. Build a Cabrini-Green on the beaches of Malibu so the residents, chicken hawks so far in the "Civil Rights struggle", can start to bear some of their fair share of the burden.


20 posted on 03/20/2007 4:50:38 PM PDT by jordan8
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