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9/11: Book Reassesses Giuliani's Role
MSNBC - Newsweek ^ | Sept 11, 2006 | Jennifer Barrett

Posted on 03/19/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT by George W. Bush

9/11: Book Reassesses Giuliani's Role

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In what ways?
The dumbest decision he made was to put the [city’s emergency] command center in the World Trade Center even though his principal security advisers urged him to put it elsewhere. His own emergency-management director, Jerry Hauer, wanted it to go where [current New York City Mayor Michael] Bloomberg has now put it: in Brooklyn ... If he had, he could have managed the crisis much more capably ...

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There’s also a whole chapter about radios. It took until March of 2001 for the fire department to come up with new radios. And the radios failed in the first week and had to be withdrawn. But they could have been reconfigured ...

Giuliani took office in January 1994, not long after the [first] World Trade Center bombing. Wasn’t there pressure on him to prevent another attack?
Everyone agrees that the question of terrorism never came up in selection of a police commissioner, which began not long after the attack. A water main broke in the first month of [Giuliani’s] administration, and he was more concerned with how the city responded to that. ...

...Also, there are enormous ways the police department has changed now. ... There were 16 or 17 detectives assigned to [the FBI's] Joint Terrorism Task Force when Giuliani took office, and when he left office in 2001 there were still 16 or 17 officers assigned. ...

Like?
No one has done anything about those who are above a fire line in a high-rise building.

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(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; giuliani; wtc
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To: theDentist
Post Season Armchair Quarterbacking.

That's what I'm thinking, too.

41 posted on 03/19/2007 10:46:49 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: tkathy
Rudy will answer all the second guessers and make them look like cheap shot artists, instead of saying nothing.

When a persons detractors are stating provable facts, that person would be liar to deny what is on the record.

Ole Rudy can only do so much, that is his major problem.

He has a record and a past. One that is not conservative or acceptable to many people. Your statement sounds like blind faith and wishful thinking.

42 posted on 03/19/2007 10:48:24 AM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: George W. Bush

Although I am not a big Rudy supporter, this is absolute BULLSH*T. Perhaps we can undertake the same type of analysis of Mrs. Bill Clinton's shortcomings when it comes to terrorism.


43 posted on 03/19/2007 10:54:25 AM PDT by newcthem (Madison doesn't have residents..........only inmates.)
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To: theDentist
Post Season Armchair Quarterbacking.

Under most conditions, I would agree with you.

I think that it was "poor vision" in light of of the 1993 attack on the WTC to have all those agencies in those buildings.

That alone would be enough to tell Rudy that leaving all the command centers in the WTC was absurd.

I almost look at it as arrogance on his part.

No wonder he was roaming around in the streets and lost so many good men.

44 posted on 03/19/2007 10:58:52 AM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: George W. Bush

Here is a suggestion. Post something, ONE time, that actually attacks the Left, instead of what is supposedly YOUR own side one time. It almost pathetic how your posting is ALWAYS something squealing at what you claims is YOUR side.


45 posted on 03/19/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: tkathy; Spiff; Liz

Giuliani will answer nothing, explain nothing. He will evade public debate, only engage in tightly controlled, pre-screened questioning, and participate only in staged appearances until CFR protections keep him from actually having answer for his record.


46 posted on 03/19/2007 11:14:21 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: theDentist; George W. Bush
Post Season Armchair Quarterbacking.

Can't be "post" when his judgment was being questioned before 9/11.

There were many people who questioned putting the emergency command center inside a building that had already been targeted by terrorists. Even though we didn't know that the Twin Towers would be hit again, we did know that they were a potential target.

47 posted on 03/19/2007 11:24:02 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: George W. Bush
An interview with one of the writers of a book about shortcomings of emergency preparedness under the Giuliani administration.

I'm not a Rudy supporter, but in his defense, we can't expect the government to anticipate everything, and budget constraints get in the way sometimes.

48 posted on 03/19/2007 11:44:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Liz
Even my dog is named 9/11. And my wife has 9/11 tattoed on her thigh.

Who knew? LOL.
49 posted on 03/19/2007 12:02:52 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: indylindy
That alone would be enough to tell Rudy that leaving all the command centers in the WTC was absurd.

He didn't leave the command center there. He put it there despite all advice to the contrary.
50 posted on 03/19/2007 12:07:39 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: highball
. . . because putting the emergency command center smack dab in the middle of one of the city's largest targets was a really dumb idea.

One angle of this story that hasn't received a lot of attention is the reason why the command center was put in 7 World Trade Center . . .

Because the World Trade Center building complex was owned by a bi-state agency (the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey), it was not subject to New York City building and safety codes. There's no way in hell the New York City Fire Department would ever have allowed anyone to store thousands of gallons of diesel fuel in the basement of a building like they did in 7 World Trade Center to provide power to a series of generators in the event of a massive failure of the city's electrical system.

The fuel that burned in the basement of that building was one of the primary factor's in the building's collapse later in the day on 9/11.

It's stories like this that convince me never to trust anyone in a position of authority in New York City in any capacity whatsoever. When someone finally gets around to writing an honest history of 9/11 a hundred years from now, there's going to be a very strong impulse to dig up the bodies of all the public officials in New York City from 2001 and dump them into the Hudson River.

51 posted on 03/19/2007 12:14:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: George W. Bush
He didn't leave the command center there. He put it there despite all advice to the contrary.

This is what I mean when Rudybots say he is "in your face and he will show them".

Looks like they showed him. To the tune of no command and control. Not listening to sound advice based on fact is not brave. It is foolish.

52 posted on 03/19/2007 12:15:51 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Makes you wonder just who the Always Whining Freepers really work for?

I don't think they work for Hillary. But a bunch of them will vote for her. I have seen a dozen or so posters here vow to vote for HRC if Rudy's the GOP nominee.

53 posted on 03/19/2007 12:20:15 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: George W. Bush

LOL nothing like posting articles that are 6 to 7 months old! Don't you have any new dirt. This is old and worthless!


54 posted on 03/19/2007 12:56:35 PM PDT by cuky
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To: George W. Bush

That Soros character is cutting into my "Candidate Offset Credit" scam. I'm gonna have to send a couple of my boys 'round to talk to him...


55 posted on 03/19/2007 1:32:57 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
They were supposed to wait until AFTER February 5, 2008 to start this stuff, after Giuliani had the nomination locked up.


LOL!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801522/posts?page=43#43
56 posted on 03/19/2007 1:42:06 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: cuky
LOL nothing like posting articles that are 6 to 7 months old!

Lots of people missed it the first time around. The book is still available and there will be others by year's end if not before.
57 posted on 03/19/2007 1:46:12 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

No matter what he's doing---he demands to be reminded of 9/11 (let's not even consider the obvious way).


58 posted on 03/19/2007 2:54:33 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: MEGoody

That was anticipated, and loudly. There was plenty of debate about putting the E.O.C. at such an obvious target. Giuliani didn't listen.


59 posted on 03/19/2007 4:19:01 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: sig226
There was plenty of debate about putting the E.O.C. at such an obvious target. Giuliani didn't listen.

If there was debate as you say, then there were two sides to the debate. Apparently, Rudy listened to the side that said it would be okay to put the EOC at the towers.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

60 posted on 03/20/2007 8:02:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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