[EternalVigilance]

A large proportion of the corn from which ethanol is being extracted is left over to feed to cattle. They thrive on it.

[Jeff Chandler]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's wrong to set up a system in which the production of fuel directly competes with the production of bourbon.

[chuckles]

The problem here is we won't buy ethanol from anyone but corn producers. Brazil wants to export to us, but we won't lower the import tax. Why won't we get ethanol from sugar cane, sugar beets, rice, potatoes, from other countries? Iowa has this sewed up in congress. We cannot plan enough corn to do this. It will take other crops and other countries to make a difference in oil imports. Africa, Haiti, Dominican Rep, etc, all have sugar plantations rotting in the sun. We can't sell rice to China, Japan, or Viet Nam because they protect their farmers. There are plenty of carbs around to make ethanol if we just get off the corn only bandwagon.

[greasepaint]

every gallon of ethanol produced,
is 2/3 of a gallon of petroleum
that no longer needs to come from the middle east.

if the US does not turn corn into ethanol,
and exports the corn,
someone else will turn the corn into ethanol.

[Nathan Zachary]

Use barley and other grains instead.

[Herakles]

It always surprises me that people who have to pay for everything they use think there is a quick fix to the energy problem and that we are going to get it for nothing.

First, if it was so easy, we would be doing it now.

Second, ALL resources are finite.

Third, renewable resource systems are low energy systems Not much to be gotten from them.

[chopperman]

The practical answer is liquefied coal.

[gotribe]

First rule of civilization: Never burn your food.

[Red Badger]

...likely to lead to chaos in other sectors of the economy.

Already has. The Grocery Sector.......Margarine, Corn Oil, Milk, Pork, Beef, Chicken, Eggs... anything remotely involved with corn is already up and getting higher.............

[gakrak]

It's a whole lot cheaper to convert sugar cane, and cattle don't eat sugar cane. Amen.

[greasepaint]

anything is better than sending money
to ragheads

[Repeal The 17th]

A feller told me the ground is so flat out there,
that when you looked way out in front of you,
all you could see was the back of your own head.

[Colonel PK]

Do you think it is possible that ethanol is produced to insure that food is limited for the population?

[RetiredArmy]

Yup. When that steak at the steak house starts costing $150.00 for 8 oz NY Strip, then folks are going to whine.

[hedgetrimmer]

President Bush's brother Jeb has a money making interest in ethanol, he's created the Interamerican Ethanol Commission with South American partners. So you are going to see ethanol subsidized and pushed on America by the government, then they will pull the carpet out from under American producers, so that Brazil can have the ethanol production as part of a falsely named "free trade" agreement. It will further disrupt and depress the US economy, which is a goal of these types of groups.

Farm and Food: Some more free-trade, grain-alcohol Kool-Aid

[montag813]

Ethanol in your tank is a violation of Sharia Law.

[hgro]

The oil companies are trying to panic cattle growers but the truth is, with the ethanol plants being built, feed will end up cheaper than ever. People are being duped and prefer to put money into the pockets of Saudis, Iranians and the other oil producing countries in Arabia.

[gogeo]

The effort is uniting ranchers and environmentalists, hog farmers and hippies..

The hippies may have finally found some allies for whom the lack of personal hygeine won't create a gag reflex.

[Dosa26]

I am soooo tired of this chit....maximize hydro, build coal plants, build nukes, supplement with wind and transition to electric. scrap the regs and scrap the subsidies. No taxes on evergy excepting forign petroleum.

[jonrick46]

Ethanol will have to come from cellulose. Until such production techniques have been perfected, we should forget about ethanol. Ethanol from food is stupidity driven by greed.