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03/13/07 - More coverage of RT (Roanoke Times, VA) debacle
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. - VA-Alert ^ | March 13, 2007 | Philip Van Cleave

Posted on 03/14/2007 5:10:42 AM PDT by Perseverando

I am starting to get more intel on the Fredericksburg Freelance-Star. Turns out they have four radio stations in the area and even a phone book business.

Oh, and FLS's radio stations have some competition from a local AM station. ;-)

The AM station isn't aiding criminals and endangering the lives of law-abiding permit holders.

This is getting better all the time.

VCDL will have a booth at the Fredericksburg gun show this weekend - stop by and say hello.

**Also let me know if you would be interested in helping VCDL picket the Freelance-Star's customers.**

Here is another story on the Roanoke Times situation. This from an interview I had with CNSNews.com:

http://tinyurl.com/2bvwcx

Gun Owners Irked By Newspaper Database Ploy By Fred Lucas CNSNews.com Staff Writer March 13, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - Virginia handgun owners are fired up over the publication of their names and addresses in a database posted online by a state newspaper.

The database of every Virginia resident who holds a state-issued permit to carry a concealed handgun was posted on the Roanoke Times' website Sunday to accompany a column in the paper by Times editorial writer Christian Trejbal.

"There are good reasons the records are open to public scrutiny," Trejbal wrote. "People might like to know if their neighbors carry. Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the glove box. Employees might like to know if employers are bringing weapons to the office."

However, gun owners contend such public scrutiny could pose a risk to gun owners and non-gun owners across the state.

"I've talked to federal agents who have testified against criminals, and police who have permits, that now have their home address posted on the Internet," Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, told Cybercast News Service. "What if a stalker wants to cross check if his victim has a permit?"

Van Cleave said the VCDL is organizing a boycott of the newspaper and businesses that advertise in the paper. He also said the group might publish a photo of Trejbal's home on its own website -- along with his address, the cost of the house and all other public information pertaining to Trejbal. It may do the same for other executives at the newspaper, he added.

"The First Amendment is a powerful thing," Van Cleave said. "Maybe we can learn more about these people. Maybe once the public knows more about them, they will not want their children going to their houses. .... The best way to teach a person a lesson is to do turnabout."

Trejbal said early Monday he could not comment but said the newspaper was preparing a response to media inquiries. No response had arrived by Monday night.

In his column, Trejbal wrote, "A state that eagerly puts sex offender data online complete with an interactive map could easily do the same with gun permits, but it does not."

The comparison angered Van Cleave, who stressed that people who hold concealed carry permits are law-abiding citizens. If they were not, he pointed out, they would not go through the legal process of obtaining a permit.

According to the paper, the state has issued 135,789 concealed carry permits. Trejbal called the database a "Sunshine Week gift" to readers. Sunshine Week marks freedom of information and open government.

Howard Finberg, director of interactive learning at the Poynter Institute, a journalism and education foundation, told Cybercast News Service Monday that journalists should weigh the publication even of information that already is public if it could have negative consequences.

"Any journalist should ask what the purpose of publishing information is. What are you trying to accomplish? What is the potential harm?" Finberg said.

He stressed that he was not taking a position on whether the paper should have posted the database, but added, "You have to balance the potential consequences with the public's right to know."

There should at least have been an ethical debate in the newsroom before the decision to publish the list, Fred Brown, the vice chairman of the ethics committee for the Society of Professional Journalist and past national president of the organization told Cybercast News Service.

"I suppose you could also argue that it's a public service to let people know who is packing," said Brown, a retired state capitol bureau chief with the Denver Post.

"The ethics are questionable. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it. I hope there was a lot of discussion in the newsroom before publishing."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; concealedcarry; foia; gun; handgun; roanoke; roanoketimes

1 posted on 03/14/2007 5:10:48 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Article posted yesterday said the list of gun owners had already been pulled.


2 posted on 03/14/2007 5:16:39 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

That's correct. The database was pulled, however we 2nd Amendment types in Virginia are fed up with The Roanoke Times blatant attack on any citizen who would dare to legally possess a concealed carry permit.

We've been fed up for years with The Roanoke Times hard left wing bias, and this is the straw that broke the camels back. People have been dropping subscriptions for years. I think it's time to talk to their advertisers. I have questioned the validity of RT's subscription numbers for a long time.

Also, the Fredericksburg Freelance-Star needs to be held accountable as well.


3 posted on 03/14/2007 5:42:21 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

This issue is shooting the messenger.

VA should not have such a list in the first place, much less be able to disseminate it. CCW registrations serve no practical purpose.


4 posted on 03/14/2007 9:45:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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