[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Galileo and Copernicus were hounded for their ideas contrary to the establishment of the day.

Sort of hypocritical when such "ardent supporters" of Galileo and Copernicus hound Creationists.

As with Galileo and Copernicus, let them present their evidence--and then let science take its course.

[Alter Kaker]

Galileo and Copernicus were hounded for their ideas contrary to the establishment of the day.

The "establishment" (whatever the heck that means) has "hounded" (whatever the heck that means) legitimate scientists. It has also rejected the work of innumerable hordes of frauds, fakes and charlatans. Is being rejected by mainstream science your gold standard for authenticity?

[EarthBound]

As usual, you manage to use a good deal more tact than I could. Yes, that is what I was saying.

[Junior]

Galileo and Copernicus were hounded for their ideas contrary to the establishment of the day.

But not by scientists of their day (of whom there were pitifully few). Those who decried Galileo and Copernicus were churchmen who were afraid of what their findings would mean for the Biblically-based order they'd established.

[Dominic Harr]

Galileo and Copernicus were hounded for their ideas contrary to the establishment of the day.

By the church, correct?! To support religious doctrine, the church and true believers attacked the scientists talking about observed fact.

Yes, I do see the similarity now!

The ID movement *has* presented their evidence. So far, that evidence not been even remotely persuasive.

[Stultis]

As with Galileo and Copernicus, let them present their evidence--and then let science take its course.

IF ONLY creationists and IDers would be satisfied with this. Instead they insist on the modification of textbooks and curricula in advance of and without regard to their views earning scientific standing on merit.