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Light is made of particles AND waves, not OR
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Posted on 03/12/2007 11:06:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
If true it's pretty odd that guys like Einstein and Bohr didn't think of it first.
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:12:55 AM PDT
by
bkepley
To: JudgemAll
Maybe there is no clock, maybe it is simultaneously acting as both particle and wave. Maybe this demonstrates other dimensions of space time, parallel dimensions...reminds me of the paradox that light has velocity but no acceleration.
walks away humming "Synchronicity"
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:21:20 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: bkepley
If true it's pretty odd that guys like Einstein and Bohr didn't think of it first.I am sure they and others thought of it but experimental verification was not there yet.
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:54:31 AM PDT
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: Right Wing Assault
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posted on
03/13/2007 5:03:45 AM PDT
by
Dad yer funny
(FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
To: LibWhacker
Not bragging, but in 1979 I got thrown out of Physics 101 because I would not let go of this exact theory, It was heresy in the Physics world at the time. The professor would hear none of it. Seemed only logical to me at the time. He accused me of "Star Trek" physics. Well joke on him. Roddenberry turned out to be right on many things that have been verified since then.
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posted on
03/13/2007 5:11:11 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(So many geeks, so few circuses.)
To: ffusco
"time" is over running matter waves(half of your physical existence), ie, deceleration and weight(W>P).
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posted on
03/13/2007 5:13:08 AM PDT
by
timer
(n/0=n=nx0)
To: LibWhacker
Flores continued, It is interesting to note that even after 80 years we can still gain a better understanding about the nature of light using refined measurement techniques and creative ideas and therefore are able add to the vast insights of former scientists.
Except when challenging something like the Big Bang by demonstrating that red shift of quasars and galaxies is only partly due to recessional velocity. The answer to this is to refuse publication to those scientists who claim otherwise and to lock them out of the observatories.
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posted on
03/13/2007 5:21:43 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: mad_as_he$$
In 1955 when I was in 2nd grade, I looked at a world map and told my teacher that South America would fit right up against Africa. She chuckled and mentioned that the continents couldn't move that much.
Some years later I read about Wegener, an early proponent (1912) of the idea that the continents were together at one time. The debate went for years as people looked for a mechanism to allow continental drift.
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posted on
03/13/2007 6:03:07 AM PDT
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: LibWhacker
Interesting how we are seeing the demise of a number of major theories. Sounds wierd but this makes light sound a bit like it has some characteristics of water....
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posted on
03/13/2007 6:08:15 AM PDT
by
applpie
To: Right Wing Assault
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posted on
03/13/2007 6:36:03 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(So many geeks, so few circuses.)
To: LibWhacker
I have alway been confused by the idea of light as waves, since waves require some type of medium to propagate them (the way sound waves can only move through air or water, but not in a vacuum.)
So it always seemed to me that if light is made of waves, it would not travel through space.
I'm no physicist, but I did study acoustics in music school back in the '70s.
I know that light does have some characteristics of waves, but it always struck me that it fundamentally had to be comprised of particles.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:31:07 AM PDT
by
Maceman
(This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
To: LibWhacker
Light is made of particles AND waves, not OR
Yes, I knew that. Thank you junior-year physics!
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posted on
03/13/2007 2:30:53 PM PDT
by
G8 Diplomat
(Life is full of change....it's called calculus)
To: fat city
I have Schrodinger's Toilet at my house
Is it dead and alive at the same time?
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posted on
03/13/2007 2:37:58 PM PDT
by
G8 Diplomat
(Life is full of change....it's called calculus)
To: Vroomfondel
I used to have a Heisenberg uncertainty shower. You could control the pressure or the temperature, but not both.
My dad illustrates the Heisenberg uncertaint principle when he gets lost while driving...he knows how fast he's going by looking at the spedometer, but doesn't know where the heck he is!
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posted on
03/13/2007 2:40:19 PM PDT
by
G8 Diplomat
(Life is full of change....it's called calculus)
To: mad_as_he$$
"Roddenberry turned out to be right on many things that have been verified since then." Unfortunately it seems that he will also be proved to be right when the earth is run by a quasi-fascistic one-world government led by freakish mutants from who knows where.
To: LibWhacker
This evidence tends to prove that science should be left to credentialed scientists and not circulated in the general population.
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posted on
03/13/2007 3:50:00 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
To: Maceman
"since waves require some type of medium to propagate them" That's where the ether comes in ...
To: ffusco
Interesting. I think of it as guitar strings close together, or when hitting a key next to a piano chord and transmiting the same frequency over. There actualy is no acceleration of the wave indeed, no matter how fast one would travel inside the chord or along it.
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:14:25 PM PDT
by
JudgemAll
(Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
To: aruanan
"Except when challenging something like the Big Bang by demonstrating that red shift of quasars and galaxies is only partly due to recessional velocity. The answer to this is to refuse publication to those scientists who claim otherwise and to lock them out of the observatories."
I think it was Max Planck who observed that an apparent quantum jump in papers on certain topics was really due to the death of "Old Fart" editors of scholastic journals who had suppressed them when they were alive.
So it goes.
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:24:14 PM PDT
by
Panzerlied
("We shall never surrender!")
To: who_would_fardels_bear
Ahhh. You see. I forgot about the ether.
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posted on
03/13/2007 4:29:53 PM PDT
by
Maceman
(This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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