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These Legs Were Made For Fighting: Human Ancestors Had Short Legs For Combat
Science Daily ^ | 3-12-2007 | University Of Utah

Posted on 03/12/2007 6:25:00 PM PDT by blam

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To: Stultis; fish hawk
I think that someday we will find that there are no particles, only theories of particles, which was called 'particle physics'
41 posted on 03/12/2007 8:09:48 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: blam
Nevertheless, male-male competition doesn't fully explain human violence, Carrier says, noting other factors such as hunting, competing with other species, defending territory and other resources, and feeding and protecting offspring.

Why did you leave out bitching, nagging, redicule, and adultry. These are far more commonplace pressures.

42 posted on 03/12/2007 8:11:31 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: fish hawk
But then you are probably somehow in time, related to monkeys, apes, and chimps, I am not.

Methinks doth protest too much.

43 posted on 03/12/2007 8:37:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: Stultis

Don't worry about it as there is no "evolutionary biology". There is biology however, it's a science. Anything with the word evolution in it is philosophy and one takes it by faith.


44 posted on 03/12/2007 9:57:09 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Stultis
Touche
45 posted on 03/12/2007 10:28:10 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: metmom
This is a lot of conjecture.

Come now, the debate is over! Sound familiar...?

46 posted on 03/12/2007 10:44:18 PM PDT by NewLand (Always remember September 11, 2001)
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To: Stultis

Touche

And I forgot, Do you agree with the article? They are using a gorilla skeleton to illustrate their point apparently.


47 posted on 03/12/2007 11:08:50 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: blam

I'm not sure I agree with the notion that short legs make a body more stable for fighting. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think it's just the opposite.

Picture two cameras, each sitting on its own tripod, and both sitting at the same height. But one tripod has long legs and a short neck (or whatever you call that extendable verticle pole that the camera sits on), the other has short legs and a long neck.

Which camera is less likely to get knocked over? I say the one sitting on the long legged tripod. Longer legs allow for more triangularity and therefore more stability.


48 posted on 03/12/2007 11:11:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Well certainly feet that tiny on a body that size would not make it more stable for fighting.
49 posted on 03/12/2007 11:24:37 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is the sort of thing that drives me crazy. Did they find a fossilized motivation? Squat physique helped them fight? Maybe so. What did they fight over? Women? Bananas? Oysters? Who knows? Let's all make a wild guess and call it science.

They must have fought over women, because Apple Computer didn't exist yet.

50 posted on 03/12/2007 11:37:50 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: blam
The title of the article says 'curves are better for Stone Age Women' yet, when I consider curves, I consider that to mean both top and bottom,

Perhaps strangely, given their allure today, few of the figures had breasts.

If, however, you look at female idols that represent fertility, you note that they are always well endowed top and bottom.

51 posted on 03/13/2007 5:38:58 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: blam

And then they invented shoes....


52 posted on 03/13/2007 6:09:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Hoplite

LOL!


53 posted on 03/13/2007 6:10:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: blam
"Female figurines dating back 15,000 years reveal that the preferred body shape for women was curvy with prominent buttocks.

Which tended to stimulate the growth of....

Oh; never mind....

54 posted on 03/13/2007 6:10:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: blam
"Female figurines dating back 15,000 years reveal that the preferred body shape for women was curvy with prominent buttocks.

Which tended to stimulate the growth of....

Oh; never mind....

55 posted on 03/13/2007 6:10:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Stultis

Hey!

Watch that 'bald' stuff!!!

56 posted on 03/13/2007 6:12:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: uglybiker

They CREEP!?

Mine has just shrunk!


57 posted on 03/13/2007 6:13:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RunningWolf
Do you agree with the article?

My off the cuff opinion as a layman is that the research seems sensible, rigorous and relevant, but for all that a pretty weak basis for the conclusion. Certainly it demonstrates that the data is not inconsistent with the aggression hypothesis, and there's some value in that, but I don't think the data is strong enough to establish that male fighting was a significant adaptive force here.

58 posted on 03/13/2007 6:20:03 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam. Women have proportionately longer torsos than do men, most of the time, but then around here men of Dutch ancestry tend to have longer torsos...

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To: Fiddlstix; shibumi

It is illegal to play Randy Newman's "Short People" on the radio in Maryland.

[New York may be a "state of mind" but Maryland is a state of psychosis]


60 posted on 03/13/2007 10:18:48 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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