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Rudy Giuliani: "There must be public funding for abortions..."
Rudy Giuliani's own mouth ^ | Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 03/12/2007 9:37:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

""There must be public funding for abortions...I disagree with President Bush's veto...of public funding for abortion."


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; liberalgop; publicfunding; rino; rudy
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To: Theodore R.
Apparently, we are free to vote Constitution Party in 2008 because Giuliani is unbeatable, it seems, and he doesn't need our votes

He won't get them, either.

341 posted on 03/13/2007 4:52:01 AM PDT by The_Eaglet (Stop RepubliCrat liberalism)
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To: proudpapa

Yes.


342 posted on 03/13/2007 4:52:36 AM PDT by The_Eaglet (Stop RepubliCrat liberalism)
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To: EternalVigilance

Mayor Shifts the Focus From City Crime to Gun Control Laws



By DAVID FIRESTONE
Published: February 25, 1997

About 9 A.M. yesterday, United States Representative Carolyn McCarthy was on her way to Southampton, L.I., for a day off when a call came in from Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's office. Could she turn around and come to City Hall -- right now -- to appear with the Mayor at an 11 o'clock news conference and help make the case that gun control might have prevented the Empire State Building shootings?

Of course she could. Two and a half hours later (they waited for her), the new Congresswoman was standing beside the Mayor at the Blue Room podium with 10 other gun-control advocates from the region, all hastily assembled by the administration to highlight lax Federal gun regulation.

And suddenly, it was more than a story about tourists being shot in New York; it was a story about Florida's easy access to guns, about Washington's failure to pass strong enough gun laws, about the lobbying of the National Rifle Association.

With Mrs. McCarthy at his side, the Mayor said the gunfire was not the fault of poor security at the landmark tower, or anything related to New York.Rather it could be blamed on a far-reaching national issue well beyond his jurisdiction.


343 posted on 03/13/2007 5:39:52 AM PDT by epow (Conservative Republicans win national elections, RINOs lose national elections, history proves it)
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To: epow; Jim Robinson; Spiff; Gelato; Reagan Man; Waywardson; Broadside

Yes, Giuliani's record is that his first kneejerk reaction to terror attacks is to curtail the liberty of law-abiding citizens.

Great post!


344 posted on 03/13/2007 6:48:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Stephen Douglas won a Senate seat. Abe Lincoln became an immortal...)
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To: epow; Joe Brower; Reagan Man; Spiff; EternalVigilance
Of course she could. Two and a half hours later (they waited for her), the new Congresswoman was standing beside the Mayor at the Blue Room podium with 10 other gun-control advocates from the region, all hastily assembled by the administration to highlight lax Federal gun regulation.

Damn. So Rudy wasn't following McCarthy's lead on this one - HE WAS THE LEAD. And he did this in part to response to charges that lax security at the Empire State building was to blame for the shootings.

RUDY LED THE CHARGE FOR MORE FEDERAL GUN CONTROL LAWS. Repeat: RUDY LED THE CHARGE FOR MORE FEDERAL GUN CONTROL LAWS.

345 posted on 03/13/2007 6:52:41 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Dominic Harr

Guess it just goes with the "Keep Austin weird" gestalt...


346 posted on 03/13/2007 12:38:24 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: zook

I gotta tell ya - I've represented dozens of ob/gyns, and have asked most of them whether they've ever personally had a case where they had to sacrifice the fetus to save the mom, and the answer has been 100% negative: none of them have ever had to make that choice. That tells me it's a straw man argument.


347 posted on 03/13/2007 12:40:28 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: Dominic Harr
Now, we're being told that pro-choice will *not* be allowed in the candidate.

That is new.

Nonsense. Here is a thread from 1999 showing the attitude toward abortion then. Note posts 146 & 186, in particular, in which the posters vow to "never vote" for George W. Bush merely because they think that he is insuffiently pro-life.

348 posted on 03/14/2007 11:03:09 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Sloth
Here is a thread from 1999 showing the attitude toward abortion then.

Beautiful, all the extremists should go back and read that thread!

Read that thread! Do you not see the tone difference???

The only ones even coming *close* in tone to the anti-Rudy folks was the Buchannonites. Very interesting read, indeed.

The "my way or the highway" traditionalists here might be this election cycle's "Buchannanites". I see a lot of similarities . . .

349 posted on 03/14/2007 11:39:05 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: EternalVigilance; epow; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Giuliani's record is that his first kneejerk reaction to terror attacks is to curtail the liberty of law-abiding citizens.

That is not behavior that I want to see in a President.

350 posted on 03/19/2007 6:38:34 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: EternalVigilance; airborne; Alberta's Child; Arizona Carolyn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ...

Guiliani is a Hillary with gonads.


351 posted on 04/04/2007 8:54:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Guiliani is a Hillary with gonads."

He looks better in women's clothing than Hillary does too.

352 posted on 04/04/2007 8:55:41 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Guiliani is a Hillary with gonads.


He is a liberal, but he is NOT an established criminal-minded Marxist. There is a big difference and the impact to America will be very different.


353 posted on 04/04/2007 9:00:10 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Dominic Harr
the things we *agree* on (political conservatism: smaller govt, lower taxes, etc) while agreeing to avoid the social issues we disagree on

What does government funding of abortions have to do with advocating "smaller govt" and "lower taxes?"

The simple fact is that Rudy Kazootie isn't even a conservative on socially-neutral constitutional issues! He's a typical leftist on everything.

354 posted on 04/04/2007 9:07:41 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Dominic Harr
The problem is, the tradionalists are ending the coalition. They're acting like they run the conservative movement by themselves now.

Murderers of children aren't conservatives. They ain't even libertarians. Monsters is what they are.

355 posted on 04/04/2007 9:09:50 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Do you have any idea what this veto involved (it’s from the first Bush administration) and what was the basis of Giuliani’s opposition to it?


356 posted on 04/04/2007 9:11:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Reagan Man
1989. Now Rudy wants to be the GOP nominee for POTUS. LOL The more things change, the more they remain the same

Does this mean you have no more recent evidence than an 18 year-old speech? If not, then an objective observer would say you don't have the faintest idea what he would do today about public funding for abortions. It may be the same as then, but we would never know it from your pathetic attempt at research.

357 posted on 04/04/2007 9:18:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually, both sexes have gonads.

But seriously, you can tell Rudy and Hillary apart, even though they both wear pants. He's the bald one.

358 posted on 04/04/2007 9:18:56 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: editor-surveyor
Guiliani is a Hillary with gonads.

Then I support "free" government funding of castration for RINOs. There are far too many RINOs roaming the streets already. We need to stop them from breeding.

359 posted on 04/04/2007 9:25:42 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: AZRepublican
He is a federalist, he believes in local funding, not federal.

You should look at the clip. He clearly says that he disagrees with President Bush's veto of public funding for abortion. If President Bush was making a veto, then it must have been federal funding. If Giuliani disagrees with the veto, then he must support federal funding for abortion. In either case, he's wrong to support taxpayer funding of abortion.

Bill

360 posted on 04/04/2007 9:51:20 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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