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Beware the 'Christianists'?
Human Events ^ | 02/28/2007 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/10/2007 8:36:34 AM PST by ChessExpert

A new book climbing the New York Times Bestseller List warns Americans of a minority of religious fanatics who are hijacking a great religion and working to destroy the United States Constitution and set up a theocracy in America. Nonbelievers will be discriminated against or even summarily killed.

Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Muhammad Atta? No, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Tim LaHaye. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ac; atheists; christianity; christophobes; lahaye; liberalfools; liberals; lunatics; persecution; robertson
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To: PeteB570

Small Christian sects are, by definition...small.

Hardly an apt comparison to a faith that preaches executing dissenters as a doctrinal imperative.


81 posted on 03/10/2007 11:36:12 AM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger
Like we Christians have no experience with that. Whoever makes the laws...it's going to be men that interpret and apply them.

There only are ten laws that matter, the ones God made.

The other 10,000+ laws on the books are a pathetic attempt by man to go one better.

82 posted on 03/10/2007 11:37:11 AM PST by pray4liberty (a saint is a sinner who never gave up.)
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To: Old_Mil
I am in absolute agreement with your first paragraph.

Now that we agree on the important stuff, we can waste our time on speculation. You may be right in your second paragraph, I don't know (ignorance not a euphemism for disagreement). About R. it seems his strongest claim is that "he will nominate someone like Alito and Roberts." I woudn't be surprised if his idea of someone like Alito and Roberts turns out to be someone like Arlen Specter and Lincoln Chafee. I can see the gleam in his eye when he says "I thought that's what you wanted."
83 posted on 03/10/2007 11:40:51 AM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democratic party. We could use another miracle.)
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To: PeteB570

No, I got your idea, and I agree with you. It's just the attempt to parallel mohammedens and Christians that I find objectionable.

What I've been trying to point out to you is that buying beer on Sunday is a pretty petty complaint to make parallels with people who whip you with a stick for listening to music.


84 posted on 03/10/2007 11:41:24 AM PST by papertyger
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To: PeteB570
I think balance and common sense with a religious founding is the best of everything.

I agree. I might suggest driving to church but then staying in your car during the service.

85 posted on 03/10/2007 11:41:25 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: papertyger

> What I've been trying to point out to you is that buying
> beer on Sunday is a pretty petty complaint to make
> parallels with people who whip you with a stick for
> listening to music.

The existing blue laws are the petty remnants of what used to be every bit as bad a religiously led nitwittery as the muslims are guilty of today.

To get the flavor of how bad it used to be, check out this book in **defense** of blue laws from 1876:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/other/abl/etext/trueblue/bluelaws.html


86 posted on 03/10/2007 11:49:00 AM PST by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: voltaires_zit
The existing blue laws are the petty remnants of what used to be every bit as bad a religiously led nitwittery as the muslims are guilty of today.

Do not assume the nitwittery was strictly based in religion. They had some funny ideas about trains that go faster than twenty miles per hour, and what constituted proper signaling at an intersection, also.

87 posted on 03/10/2007 12:00:35 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

Which scriptural laws do you think shouldn't be obeyed in the modern era?


88 posted on 03/10/2007 12:01:37 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: gondramB

Good laws! And Jesus did rank them, it seems. I can dig it!


89 posted on 03/10/2007 12:02:19 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
Which scriptural laws do you think shouldn't be obeyed in the modern era?

What are you trying to get at?

90 posted on 03/10/2007 12:07:09 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

I'd like some insight into how you can distinguish between a law in the bible that is to be followed, and a law in the bible that is to be ignored, if any.


91 posted on 03/10/2007 12:09:46 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
Good laws! And Jesus did rank them, it seems. I can dig it!

Notice "The Shema" (You shall love the Lord your God...etc,) does not appear in the Decalogue.

92 posted on 03/10/2007 12:10:46 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

What laws in the Decalogue do you consider unimportant to be followed in modern day, if any?


93 posted on 03/10/2007 12:11:45 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: papertyger

> Do not assume the nitwittery was strictly based in religion.

Oh, I don't think a congress critter or other ballot louse *needs* religion in order to be a flaming imbecile who would compare unfavorably to a rabid weasel in both deportment and common sense.

I just know that it is one of their more common excuses.


94 posted on 03/10/2007 12:12:59 PM PST by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: nonsporting

Finally, a normal even healthy response.


95 posted on 03/10/2007 12:14:51 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: HitmanLV
I'd like some insight into how you can distinguish between a law in the bible that is to be followed, and a law in the bible that is to be ignored, if any.

The reasonings are different for Christians and Jews, and I am not as familiar with the reasonings for Jews.

That being said, you must understand for Christians, the law was instituted not to give a guide on how to live, but to demonstrate the impossibility of attaining God's standard of righteousness by personal effort. It's there to show you if you are going to be saved, it's because of what God does for you, not what you do to satisfy God.

It's kind of like the old joke about "if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it."

96 posted on 03/10/2007 12:18:36 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

I was asking how you personally can distinguish between one of those laws that must be followed, and one of those laws that it's ok to break.


97 posted on 03/10/2007 12:20:25 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: voltaires_zit
Oh, I don't think a congress critter or other ballot louse *needs* religion in order to be a flaming imbecile who would compare unfavorably to a rabid weasel in both deportment and common sense.

Excuse me while I change my britches ;oD

98 posted on 03/10/2007 12:21:06 PM PST by papertyger
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To: HitmanLV
I was asking how you personally can distinguish between one of those laws that must be followed, and one of those laws that it's ok to break.

By reading The Catechism of the Catholic Church.

99 posted on 03/10/2007 12:23:16 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

Me too. Where does the Catechism stand on adultery as punishable by death?


100 posted on 03/10/2007 12:23:50 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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