Posted on 03/10/2007 8:36:34 AM PST by ChessExpert
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Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Muhammad Atta? No, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Tim LaHaye. ...
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The Decalogue is still in force. It's the punishments that have changed.
Who changed the punishments, and why?
You are drifting. The Catechism does not call for death for any offense. Nevertheless, the punishment for unforgiven adultery is eternal damnation. What has changed from Old to New is who will carry out the punishment.
God's opinion of adultery can not change.
You said "You too."
If that is true, you don't need me to answer that question. If you do actually need that question answered, it's not going to happen on an internet message forum, but in your local parish with your own copy of the Bible and the Catechism.
I'm not dodging you. You are literally asking for a theological education.
I'm not drifting. This discussion began when I mentioned the inherent nuttiness of people who can't meaningfully distinguish between murder and adultery for the purposes of meting criminal punishment, if any.
You are known by the enemies you keep.
You misunderstand. I want to know if you personally think the sins of murder and adultery should be punished in the same, or even a similar, way by our laws.
It's a yes or no question. You can elaborate your answer, but anything less is a dodge.
My answer is 'no.'
> The Decalogue is still in force. It's the punishments
> that have changed.
For a really skillful blasphemer, the punishment is either a special on Comedy Central or a couple years service in elective office...
No...THIS discussion began when you claimed God ranked murder above adultery.
I do believe adultery should be a punishable offense. Not on par with murder, but certainly on par with assault or robbery.
No, the discussion began with my post saying that some Freepers I encountered thought muder and adultery should be comparable criminal offenses.
I don't think adultery should be a crime in any way at all.
Do you think contracts should be enforced by the civil authority?
Sure, but breach of contract isn't a criminal offense.
Blame it on the public schools.
True enough, but you asked me about my opinion.
I believe the economic devastation wrought by many civil suits should have criminal consequences, not the least of which is the destruction of one's own family.
If you say so. I think that's a terrible idea.
What is an appropriate criminal sentence for a woman who cheats on a good, decent hardworking husband?
What is an appropriate criminal sentence for a woman who cheats on a rotten, wifebeating, lazy husband?
Still, I think some Christians should think again about wanting their religion to take over. The not-so-good reason for not pushing Christianity is that pushing it will provoke exactly this kind of backlash. The good reason is that it is wrongheaded thinking. If Christianity is right (and I believe it is), it should lead one into the respect for liberty that the Founders had--the only place from which one can freely choose to be a Christian.
The quick answer, nowhere near complete, is that Jesus came to fulfill the ceremonial laws by being the "final" sacrifice for your sins. Christ did not do away with the moral laws, which should still be kept.
So, don't murder still holds. Don't commit adultery (sorry slick Billy C.) still holds. If you do commit a sin having to hop up and down on one foot 100 times then do 25 back flips (ceremonial) can be disregarded (OK, that's wasn't one of the ceremonial laws but I think you get my point).
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