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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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KEYWORDS: books; zenandtheartofmotorc
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To: 6323cd

SWEET! Now that's the kind of story I'm hoping to hear!


541 posted on 03/13/2007 12:01:36 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Dianna

Man oh man, "Walden" sucks something fierce! Especially when you find out what a poser Thoreau was, eating dinner with his family every day.

But it's still better than Whitman. He can celebrate himself all he wants, as long as he does it behind closed doors and doesn't bother me with it. UGH.


542 posted on 03/13/2007 12:29:41 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: incredulous joe

I used to adore Tom Robbins, when I was a young liberal. I thought his books were wonderful.

Now, it's been at least a decade since I picked one up.


543 posted on 03/13/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Lloyd227

Maybe I should give it another shot. I loved "The Name of the Rose."

The narrator's annoying Brazilian girlfriend and her habit of calling her baby something demeaning - was it Lump? - irked me and I wanted to slap her, pregnant and all.


544 posted on 03/13/2007 12:36:10 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Oh, HELL yeah Castaneda! Lying publicity hound faux shaman!


545 posted on 03/13/2007 12:52:31 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
"The Golden Bowl" by Henry James. This fella writes sentences pages long and so filled with parentheticals and asides that by the time you finish the sentence, you have forgotten what the subject was.

I have challenged myself to finish it, because like cod liver oil, it may actually be good for me, and by virtue of simply keeping it down, I am already a hero.

546 posted on 03/13/2007 12:54:04 PM PDT by The Grim Freeper
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To: Xenalyte

Sham-man? Yep. He had a lot of nitwits running around looking at their belly-buttons, though.


547 posted on 03/13/2007 12:56:55 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Ulysses. I never finished it, because I kept falling asleep.


548 posted on 03/13/2007 12:57:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Stirner

"Hard to understand, but a model of clarity compared to Hegel's Phenomenology of the Mind (or Heidegger's Being and Time)."

What is it about German philosophers? Let's not forget Wittgenstein. Talk about impenetrable.

Actually, a lot of philosophy is just so much chop-logic and arguing about angels on pinheads. As a philosophical field, I find apologetics especially mind-numbing.


549 posted on 03/13/2007 1:23:01 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Xenalyte
"Now, it's been at least a decade since I picked one up."

It's odd how that happens? I think "Skinny Legs" was the very last esoteric novel that I ever attempted.

Previous to that, I enjoyed "Stil Life with Woodpecker" and I remember thinking that "Jittergug Perfume" was some kind of revelation. Now, I kind of doubt I could make it through those.

A few folks in this thread have taken aim at Kurt Vonnegutt, and I have to admit that I still think his stuff is very funny.

In music I've noticed the same thing. I used to listen to the likes of REM and Billy Bragg. While I am definitely put off by the politics of these folks you'd figure that I would still enjoy queuing up there discs,...not so. Some of the stuff is only in vinyl and I have no intention of upgrading to CD.

I think sometimes this has to do with being liberal, or not having resolved one's core values, and by this I do not necessarily mean political. It's an interesting phenomenon. My wife says there is a name for this though - she calls it "growing up".
550 posted on 03/13/2007 1:30:59 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Illusion is the first of all pleasures." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: 6323cd

LOL, that is funny!
Bump to an interesting and funny thread~~


551 posted on 03/16/2007 7:01:49 AM PDT by keeper53 ( "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot)
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To: MadIvan

Missed you lately. Interested in your read on present sit.


552 posted on 03/26/2007 8:43:00 PM PDT by GopherIt
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To: Smokin' Joe

dude, you must have not been high when you read him.


553 posted on 03/26/2007 8:50:19 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: condi2008

You need to add the juice of half a lemon and half an orange. It really kicks it up a notch and adds a good accent. Yum


554 posted on 03/26/2007 8:53:27 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: trisham

I found a copy of "Utopia" at the used book store and thought I'd try to add some culture to my life. Bad idea. (Well, bad book anyway).


555 posted on 03/26/2007 8:56:28 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Grimmy
The Island of the Day Before by Eco.

I'll second that one.

556 posted on 03/26/2007 9:08:43 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: statered

Can you still read if you are high enough to sort it out?


557 posted on 03/26/2007 9:08:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

income tax code.


558 posted on 03/26/2007 9:10:13 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: SamAdams76

"Edgar Allan Poe is also very difficult to read. Except maybe on a cold, winter's night with a couple tumblers of whiskey already in you"

wasn't that the manner in which it was written?


559 posted on 03/26/2007 9:13:48 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Smokin' Joe

If you have toothpicks for your eyes. Tobacco you must be smokin'.


560 posted on 03/26/2007 9:17:54 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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