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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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KEYWORDS: books; zenandtheartofmotorc
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To: Old Professer

"No more cheese for you; and put down that wine glass, too."


...why...???

Because I suggested that, if a book is DREADFUL, WHY continue to read it...???

I mean...are you the literary masochism police or what...???


381 posted on 03/10/2007 11:21:47 AM PST by JB in Whitefish
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To: keeper53

"William S. Burrough's Naked Lunch Here is an exerpt:
"The Rube has a sincere little boy look, burns through him like blue neon. That one stepped right off a Sator-day Evening Post cover with a string of bullheads, and preserved himself in junk. His marks never beef and the Bunko people are really carrying a needle for the Rube. One day Little Boy Blue starts to slip, and what crawls out would make an ambulance attendant puke. The Rube flips in the end, running through empty automats and subway stations, screaming: "Come back, kid! Come back!", and follows his boy right into the East River, down through condoms and orange peels, mosaic of floating newspapers, down into the silent black ooze with gangsters in concrete, and pistols pounded Hat to avoid the probing finger of prurient ballistic experts."

I am speechless! "


I must have been REALLY stoned when I read that malarky...

I actually thought I 'GOT IT' at the time....

Forgetable at best.


382 posted on 03/10/2007 11:23:31 AM PST by JB in Whitefish
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To: BnBlFlag
The Gulag Archipelago------Certainly a reflection of the bizarre Kafkaesque world of the soviet system. Quite a few levels of hell to get through.

What brilliance on the part of Solzhenitsyn.
383 posted on 03/10/2007 11:24:02 AM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: zook

It's a good reading exercise. I had to trade off reading that and Proust because any more than a few pages of either at any one time makes you want to talk in 100 word sentences using a lot of incomprehensively-glued-together words. Also, either or both of these require entirely too much time to be appropriate as a reading assignment in a semester.


384 posted on 03/10/2007 11:27:51 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: bkepley

He captures the individual stories much better in his novels. My view.


385 posted on 03/10/2007 11:28:59 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Kierkegaard:  Concluding Unscientific Postscript

Seriously.  WTF?  It's completely unreadable.  I think I made it through 60-odd pages before giving up.

386 posted on 03/10/2007 11:31:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (I'm holding out hope that at least the DEMOCRATS might accidentally nominate a conservative.)
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To: zook

On sentence length: it was amusing to find an editorial comment on one of de Montaigne's sentences about Caesar, that it is considered very long, going on an entire page, after digesting thousands of pages of Proust for practice.


387 posted on 03/10/2007 11:31:24 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Kierkegaard is incomprehensible from first sentence to last. You'll just end up as depressed as he was if you try to read it.


388 posted on 03/10/2007 11:33:29 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: RightWhale

As a child, I recall a Ripley's Believe it or Not item about an 800 word long sentence, and I seem to recall it was from a piece of French literature. I wonder if this is the same one.


389 posted on 03/10/2007 11:35:19 AM PST by zook
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To: zook

It could be. Proust is famous for that. But, they are very well composed sentences and easy to understand after you get used to keeping the whole sentence in mind at once. Just takes practice.


390 posted on 03/10/2007 11:39:22 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: RightWhale

But I assume one needs to read them in French for best effect. (?)


391 posted on 03/10/2007 11:41:26 AM PST by zook
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To: zook

There are some jokes that work in French and not well in English translation. Proust is very funny here and there; the Moncrieff translation conveys some of that if you know some French and read footnotes.


392 posted on 03/10/2007 11:48:01 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: Allegra

I'm not questioning anybody's salvation, but the fruit in the article is rotten and good for nothingness.


393 posted on 03/10/2007 11:54:22 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Dianetics,L Ron Hubbard.


394 posted on 03/10/2007 11:55:37 AM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Allegra

Nothing wrong in discerning good from bad fruit though faith in Him. Posts 73 & 346 provide similar insight.

The issue of understanding Revelation begins with the ministry of God the Holy Spirit. In advanced study, a considerable amount of Bible doctrine is also useful in understanding His Prophecy. Faith upon faith assists the student in discerning the meanings being communicated in His Word, all of it provided by the work of the Holy Spirit in the individual believer. This also only occurs while the believer remains in fellowship with Him.


395 posted on 03/10/2007 12:02:55 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: restornu

Good post.

I agree full heartedly.


396 posted on 03/10/2007 12:04:36 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco

I absolutely agree.

397 posted on 03/10/2007 12:05:49 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Foucault's Pendulum is one of my favorites. It is lucid, well written and clear compared to "The French Lieutenant's Woman".....


398 posted on 03/10/2007 12:06:07 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Cvengr
but the fruit in the article is rotten and good for nothingness.

In which article?

399 posted on 03/10/2007 12:59:02 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

"The Saggy Baggy Elephant."


400 posted on 03/10/2007 12:59:44 PM PST by zook
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