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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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KEYWORDS: books; zenandtheartofmotorc
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Hegel's Phenomenology of Mind
141 posted on 03/10/2007 4:55:43 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Glenn
9/11 Commission Report

Not to mention the Iraq Study Group report.

142 posted on 03/10/2007 4:55:45 AM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: LowOiL

Wasn't that actually a collection of Tolkein's notes and ideas for The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings? I read about fifty pages of it and I gave up. I needed more note paper than the book had pages to keep up with the myths, gods, and everything else that was going on.


143 posted on 03/10/2007 4:57:07 AM PST by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: KellyAdmirer
I'll also nominate "Moby Dick," simply for the chapter on the whiteness of the whale. It was very white, we get it already!

Anyone ever get stuck in the unedited edition of William Hope Hodgson's The Nightland? Great, great book, if you like science fiction. It will make your hair stand on end. But it's written in a very unnatural, stilted syntax that takes some getting used to. And it can be repetitive.

One chapter which was only about how much and how deeply the main character loved his true love, goes on for 60 - 90 pages, iirc. Well, the reader has to be made to appreciate why the hero would undertake such a dangerous, epic journey in the first place. Otherwise, I guess the whole story would be so darned unbelievable.

Anyway, that chapter was very irritating and I was just about ready to fling the book across the room when I finally got to the end of it.

144 posted on 03/10/2007 4:57:39 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Dirtysnowbank
Don't know about anything, but Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" is the only book I've never been able to finish. After the first 100 or so pages you know what the ending will be, but have about another 700 pages to go to the end.

Maybe it's better if you can read it in the original Russian.
145 posted on 03/10/2007 4:57:52 AM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: fnord
you got the entire Gulag for 50 cents? the whole thing is in several volumes and runs about 2000 pages!

I read the first volume of Gulag when I was a freshman in college. It's the book that turned me into a conservative. Probably the single most influential book I ever read.

146 posted on 03/10/2007 4:58:01 AM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: LowOiL; SeeSalt
"The Silmarillion --- by J.R.R. Tolkien"

I tried that at age 12. It came in a five book set with 'The Hobbit' and the LOTR trilogy (I know, I know, it's one book and not a trilogy) and I started with 'The Silmarillion' first. It was years later before I actually read the other books which were where I should have started first, ignoring 'The Silmarillion'.

"Mein Kampf"

God sakes, the things that two men will do when they're locked up in prison together. I was almost willing to release Rudolf Hess from prison after reading that book based on the idea that he suffered enough having to sit next to Hitler in jail all those years transcribing that idiocy while Hitler dictated to him. No wonder Hess went crazy. I can't believe that any Nazis actually read that book.

147 posted on 03/10/2007 4:58:20 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Allegra

Maybe this will help: Things are going to get worse (as you can see that they actually are), then, the Lord is going to return and take care of the situation.


148 posted on 03/10/2007 4:59:32 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Victoria_R
US Code Title 26 aka the Internal Revenue Code. And associated regulations.

You're on to something, there...

149 posted on 03/10/2007 5:00:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones


All others are merely pretenders to the throne.

This book is the most unreadable series of English words ever set in type.

However it is a brilliant piece of literature and the most intellectual dissection of existentialism ever written.

Zen will always be on of my favorite.

150 posted on 03/10/2007 5:01:40 AM PST by Neuromancer
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To: Blind Eye Jones

"The Book of Love: understanding women". I wrote it my self and still don't get it.


151 posted on 03/10/2007 5:04:00 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Edward Bulver-Lytton has become an object of derision for his larded, opaque style, as for example in "The Last Days of Pompey." I believe there is an annual bad writing contest named after him. However, as a boy, I enjoyed "The Last Days of Pompey" tremendously and it impressed me so much that ever since I have been addicted to the literature of unexpected disasters and collapsing systems.
152 posted on 03/10/2007 5:04:32 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: BnBlFlag

You must have read it in the Russian. The English translation is prolix but stays between the lines. It is amazingly densely packed for being so long.


153 posted on 03/10/2007 5:08:05 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Malesherbes

Weave World by Clive Barker of Hellraiser fame.


154 posted on 03/10/2007 5:10:10 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: jalisco555

I read the entire collection high school. Can't remember why I went looking for them, but at the time (mid 70's) I was the only one who had ever checked it out.

It had quite an impact on me also. Should be required reading IMO for high schools.


155 posted on 03/10/2007 5:10:54 AM PST by fnord (If gun owners, pot smokers, and poker players start a political party, they'd never lose an election)
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To: fnord
Should be required reading IMO for high schools.

After reading Gulag I had no patience whatever for my liberal friends' arguments about how oppressive America is.

156 posted on 03/10/2007 5:12:27 AM PST by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: OwenKellogg

Camus impressed me as being entirely too busy playing with his toes and his fingers to actually move things along. I don't make entries about the most convoluted, etc., book I have read because I only read one that fit the category because I had to for a class long ago. Many others I picked up and read the first couple of pages, like Finnegan's Wake and The Brothers Karamazov, then read a couple of pages in the middle to see if they stayed the same and then gave them to younger relatives and told them they should read them to improve their minds. Those things are what the old Classics Comics were for.


157 posted on 03/10/2007 5:13:45 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Mom MD

I read and enjoyed Name of the Rose until that damnable Movie Ending. It struck me that the whole thing was about hoping to sell movie rights.


158 posted on 03/10/2007 5:16:54 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
The Hornet's Nest by Jimmy Carter. I rarely don't finish a book, but that one became intolerable!
159 posted on 03/10/2007 5:17:08 AM PST by pleasedontzotme
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To: Lurker

Tom Wolfe....eeeggggghhhh....so much potential and yet so much pretention. (IMHO)


160 posted on 03/10/2007 5:18:20 AM PST by pleasedontzotme
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