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Shame On Conservatives (for not supporting Coulter)
RightBias News ^ | 3-9-07 | Nancy Morgan

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:12:02 AM PST by nancyvideo

One of the major differences between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are much more susceptible to group think. Most on the left are content to accept the prevailing leftist talking points as their own without questioning any of the intellectual underpinnings of said argument. (Think global warming..)

Conservatives, on the other hand, are more likely to rely on the substance and facts of a debate instead of drawing their conclusions based on 'consensus' and 'feelings'. At least that used to be so.

Enter Ann Coulter.

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To: Young Werther
"Her statement wasn't about Edwards proclivities but about the Politically Correct environment where Freedom of Speech is denied anyone who vents!"


This is exactly the point. But to understand that point requires one to "think" a little and not knock themselves out with their own jerking knee.

Typical of the self appointed highminded: hear bad word, swoon!!! Of course, that this swooning is Pavlovian conditioning never crosses their "high" minds.

I don't consider the word faggot a vulgarity. Those suffering the vapors at the use of it are doing so because the left has successfully brainwashed you with their "newthink".
61 posted on 03/09/2007 12:03:43 PM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: DickieFlatts
Coulter is a disgrace. Using the term she used & in the way she used it is a awful.

As to people like Bill Kristol, Bill Buckley and Pat Buchanan. These people have real ideas that mean something to true conservatives

Yeah, you're a troll. You're going to prop up Pat Buchanan on THIS site? Yeah, you're here to stir up trouble, just like the other wusses hanging around.

62 posted on 03/09/2007 12:05:59 PM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: nancyvideo

amen to that.


63 posted on 03/09/2007 12:08:25 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Al Gator
Your right, of course.

Political Correctness is, what I call, the Simon Sez, (or don't sez) Syndrome.

When you hear Sean and Rush aluding to the proposed legislation, (like McCain Feingold), which will hamper/hinder/muzzle talk radio the the era of 1984 new speak is not a hollow threat!

64 posted on 03/09/2007 12:08:46 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: nancyvideo
Shame On Conservatives (for not supporting Coulter)

Support?

Hell, I think it would be cool if they merely refrained from attacking her!

My message to the terminally "righteous":
It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good - and less trouble.--- Mark Twain

65 posted on 03/09/2007 12:11:06 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: nancyvideo
Breck Girl is soooo lame.. not creative enough or even funny..
"Faggot" at least makes Edwards a sexual object for queers..
And be advised he is..
66 posted on 03/09/2007 12:16:51 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: DickieFlatts

Coulter is a disgrace. Using the term she used & in the way she used it is a awful.

There are plenty of very good conservative journalists and critics out there. Articulate people with reasoned ideas that don't resort to gutter nonsense. Bob Novak, Peggy Noonan and David Brooks instantly come to mind. As to people like Bill Kristol, Bill Buckley and Pat Buchanan. These people have real ideas that mean something to true conservatives.

Coulter brand of made for tabloid politics is the equivalent of political porn. It is nasty. I suspect it plays well with 19 year old boys at the fraternity house.
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This is a typical "shoot the wounded, who needs them anyway!" reaction. The selective outrage, prosecutions, and other public beatings will go on until conservatives can be appropriately re-educated.

Fortunately for the perpetrators, other conservatives (like the above) can be counted on to applaud the highly selective assaults, and yell "amen" at the appropriate points in the hypocritical indictments. Conservatives like this are losers, and deserve to be losers, well on their way to being free of PC "thought crime", i.e., completely re-educated for the New Order.


Of Hate-Speech and Hypocrisy
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com Managing Editor
March 09, 2007

(Contains language that may be offensive to some readers.)

(CNSNews.com) - The left-wing Daily Kos blog has been driving a campaign to have companies pull ads from Ann Coulter's website after the conservative author used a slur in a recent speech, but leftist websites -- including Daily Kos -- have themselves used the offending word in the past.

Daily Kos postings have included the word "faggot" at least three times in recent years, as have other liberal blogs -- without apology, and without generating a furor.

During a characteristically caustic speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) last Friday, Coulter said, "I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I ... can't really talk about Edwards."

The outcry was not long in coming, with the Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for homosexual rights, issuing a statement calling her use of the term "vile and disgusting" and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) saying it was "vile and unacceptable."

It was soon reported that at least three companies had pulled advertising from Coulter's site, following postings on Daily Kos in which target companies were identified and their contact information provided.

"Ann Coulter's latest bigoted and hateful diatribe has justifiably evoked rage and disgust throughout the progressive community," a Daily Kos blogger going by the name of "VolvoDrivingLiberal" wrote two days after the speech.

"One of the best ways to communicate one's distaste for Coulter's repeated incidents of hate speech is to respectfully but firmly let her advertisers know you are deeply troubled by their indirect support of bigotry through their advertising on Coulter's website," the blogger wrote. "A list of Coulter's advertisers with contact information is detailed below."

(Posting again on Daily Kos on Thursday, "VolvoDrivingLiberal" boasted that "the progressive community achieved significant success this week in persuading corporate and organizational advertisers to pull ads on anncoulter.com." The blogger urged readers to turn their attention to one last major target advertising on Coulter's site, Amazon.com.)

Taking flak from liberals, and from many fellow conservatives, Coulter argued that she had been aiming at political correctness, not slurring homosexuals. (Last January, Grey's Anatomy actor Isaiah Washington used the derogatory word at the Golden Globe awards. Amid an ensuing fuss, he released a statement saying he was seeking counseling.)

"It's a schoolyard taunt," an unapologetic Coulter told broadcaster Sean Hannity on Tuesday. "It means ... wussy."

However the term may be interpreted, Coulter is not alone in using it.

Daily Kos itself has not shied away from the word. Nor has it removed postings that use it. Examples include:
a headline reading: "Democrats and the faggot problem."
a headline asking: "Who invited the little faggot?"
a headline reading: "When is a faggot just a bundle of sticks?" (That posting goes on to ask, "What's up with the little sly gay jokes? Hmm? As I read the comments in discussions on DKos, there are times when I almost have to check and see if I accidentally stumbled into a Wingnut [right-wing] blog.")
Other left-wing websites have also seen usage of what's being called the new f-word:
Pam Spaulding of the blog Pam's House Blend wrote a headline including the phrase "caving to the faggot juggernaut" -- in reference to a comment by Fred Phelps, the controversial leader of a small religious group that uses the epithet frequently in its campaigning.
Indymedia, a left-wing activist site, carried an Oct. 2006 rant under the headline, "Bush is a closet faggot."
A posting on the Firedoglake blog that pokes fun at Christian leaders found to have been involved in homosexual relationships: "I have been spending my time since the election attempting to hone my knowledge of the Radical Gay Agenda in hopes of infiltrating the Christianist chuch [sic] and bringing it down from within. But it looks like the sad, sick, repressed faggots that run the place are saving me the trouble."
Blogger Melissa McEwan, on her site Shakespeare's Sister, used the line -- in reference to Leonardo da Vinci -- "I'm not so sure it's such a good idea for students to be studying that faggot anyway."
Another contributor to the Shakespeare's Sister site, "Paul the Spud," wrote in a Dec. 2006 posting, "We can't make it work, so why should you be allowed to, faggot? Quit getting so uppity!" (He was putting words into the mouth of an advocate against same-sex marriage.)
Ironically, McEwan of Shakespeare's Sister is one of two bloggers who worked briefly for the Edwards 2008 campaign but resigned last month amid criticism of provocative postings about Christianity on their sites.

The other erstwhile Edwards blogger, Amanda Marcotte, carried a posting ( warning: vile content ) by another blogger -- Spaulding, again -- on her Pandagon site, using the word "faggoty" in reference to Jesus.

Bloggers aren't the only liberals to use the slur.

In 2003, Howard Dean's campaign manager was reported to have written a letter to the presidential campaign of fellow Democrat and rival Dick Gephardt, complaining that a member of the Gephardt team had called a Dean staffer a "faggot."

Homosexual-rights groups employ a double standard too, it appears.

In its response to Coulter's remarks last Friday, GLAAD not only slammed the author but accused CPAC itself of promoting "discriminatory policies," and GLAAD president Neil Giuliano called on media organizations -- NBC News in particular -- to stop offering Coulter a platform.

Three years ago, however, GLAAD took a rather different approach when rapper 50 Cent told Playboy magazine, "I ain't into faggots ... We refer to gay people as faggots, as homos. It could be disrespectful, but that's the facts."

In that instance, GLAAD responded with a polite -- almost respectful -- press release expressing "concern" about the comments, and inviting 50 Cent to attend GLAAD's annual media awards.

And no, there was no suggestion that anyone stop giving the platinum-selling New York "gangsta" a platform.

SHOOTING ELEPHANTS IN A BARREL
Ann Coulter
March 7, 2007

Lewis Libby has now been found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice for lies that had absolutely no legal consequence.

It was not a crime to reveal Valerie Plame's name because she was not a covert agent. If it had been a crime, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald could have wrapped up his investigation with an indictment of the State Department's Richard Armitage on the first day of his investigation since it was Armitage who revealed her name and Fitzgerald knew it.

With no crime to investigate, Fitzgerald pursued a pointless investigation into nothing, getting a lot of White House officials to make statements under oath and hoping some of their recollections would end up conflicting with other witness recollections, so he could charge some Republican with "perjury" and enjoy the fawning media attention.

As a result, Libby is now a convicted felon for having a faulty memory of the person who first told him that Joe Wilson was a delusional boob who lied about his wife sending him to Niger.

This makes it official: It's illegal to be Republican.

Since Teddy Kennedy walked away from a dead girl with only a wrist slap (which was knocked down to a mild talking-to, plus time served: zero), Democrats have apparently become a protected class in America, immune from criminal prosecution no matter what they do.

As a result, Democrats have run wild, accepting bribes, destroying classified information, lying under oath, molesting interns, driving under the influence, obstructing justice and engaging in sex with underage girls, among other things.

Meanwhile, conservatives of any importance constantly have to spend millions of dollars defending themselves from utterly frivolous criminal prosecutions. Everything is illegal, but only Republicans get prosecuted.

Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh was subjected to a three-year criminal investigation for allegedly buying prescription drugs illegally to treat chronic back pain. Despite the witch-hunt, Democrat prosecutor Barry E. Krischer never turned up a crime.

Even if he had, to quote liberal Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz: "Generally, people who illegally buy prescription drugs are not prosecuted." Unless they're Republicans.

The vindictive prosecution of Limbaugh finally ended last year with a plea bargain in which Limbaugh did not admit guilt. Gosh, don't you feel safer now? I know I do.

In another prescription drug case with a different result, last year, Rep. Patrick Kennedy (Democrat), apparently high as a kite on prescription drugs, crashed a car on Capitol Hill at 3 a.m. That's abuse of prescription drugs plus a DUI offense. Result: no charges whatsoever and one day of press on Fox News Channel.

I suppose one could argue those were different jurisdictions. How about the same jurisdiction?

In 2006, Democrat and major Clinton contributor Jeffrey Epstein was nabbed in Palm Beach in a massive police investigation into his hiring of local underage schoolgirls for sex, which I'm told used to be a violation of some kind of statute in the Palm Beach area.

The police presented Limbaugh prosecutor Krischer with boatloads of evidence, including the videotaped statements of five of Epstein's alleged victims, the procurer of the girls for Epstein and 16 other witnesses.

But the same prosecutor who spent three years maniacally investigating Limbaugh's alleged misuse of back-pain pills refused to bring statutory rape charges against a Clinton contributor. Enraging the police, who had spent months on the investigation, Krischer let Epstein off after a few hours on a single count of solicitation of prostitution. The Clinton supporter walked, and his victims were branded as whores.

The Republican former House Whip Tom DeLay is currently under indictment for a minor campaign finance violation. Democratic prosecutor Ronnie Earle had to empanel six grand juries before he could find one to indict DeLay on these pathetic charges -- and this is in Austin, Texas (the Upper West Side with better-looking people).

That final grand jury was so eager to indict DeLay that it indicted him on one charge that was not even a crime -- and which has since been tossed out by the courts.

After winning his primary despite the indictment, DeLay decided to withdraw from the race rather than campaign under a cloud of suspicion, and Republicans lost one of their strongest champions in Congress.

Compare DeLay's case with that of Rep. William "The Refrigerator" Jefferson, Democrat. Two years ago, an FBI investigation caught Jefferson on videotape taking $100,000 in bribe money. When the FBI searched Jefferson's house, they found $90,000 in cash stuffed in his freezer. Two people have already pleaded guilty to paying Jefferson the bribe money.

Two years later, Bush's Justice Department still has taken no action against Jefferson. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently put Rep. William Jefferson on the Homeland Security Committee.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democrat, engaged in a complicated land swindle, buying a parcel of land for $400,000 and selling it for over $1 million a few years later. (At least it wasn't cattle futures!)

Reid also received more than four times as much money from Jack Abramoff (nearly $70,000) as Tom DeLay ($15,000). DeLay returned the money; Reid refuses to do so. Why should he? He's a Democrat.

Former Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger literally received a sentence of community service for stuffing classified national security documents in his pants and then destroying them -- big, fat federal felonies.

But Scooter Libby is facing real prison time for forgetting who told him about some bozo's wife.

Bill Clinton was not even prosecuted for obstruction of justice offenses so egregious that the entire Supreme Court staged a historic boycott of his State of the Union address in 2000.

By contrast, Linda Tripp, whose only mistake was befriending the office hosebag and then declining to perjure herself, spent millions on lawyers to defend a harassment prosecution based on far-fetched interpretations of state wiretapping laws.

Liberal law professors currently warning about the "high price" of pursuing terrorists under the Patriot Act had nothing but blood lust for Tripp one year after Clinton was impeached (Steven Lubet, "Linda Tripp Deserves to be Prosecuted," New York Times, 8/25/99).

Criminal prosecution is a surrogate for political warfare, but in this war, Republicans are gutless appeasers.

Bush has got to pardon Libby.





67 posted on 03/09/2007 12:17:01 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: SerpentDove

Bingo

With Coulter it is all about money. Which is why I equated it to porn below. She would say anything if she thought it would earn her the next round of cable news appearances to discuss the "controversy" or if she thought it would entice another college group to pay her to come speak one more time. Its all about the dollars. I doubt she cares at all about conservatives or the conservative movement (we know she has trouble voting for instance).


68 posted on 03/09/2007 12:19:55 PM PST by DickieFlatts
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To: Ikemeister
It's only people like Bill O'Reilly, McCain, Rudy and their bots on here that aren't. Oh, they'll "defend her right to say it", but they'll complain about her "venue for saying it" and how it is "tacky" and "potty mouth".

This is just like the Dixie Chick saga. Like the Dixie Chicks, Ann Coulter had the freedom of speech to say what she did but with that freedom comes consequences.

Coulter is not dumb and she is very accustomed to public speaking. This was a calculated publicity stunt.

FWIW, Coulter does far more harm to the conservative cause than any benefit she brings. She the pundit equivalent of an internet troll. She was once a insightful and thought provoking writer, but now she just lives off of flame throwing and getting a rise out of people.

69 posted on 03/09/2007 12:20:25 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: SerpentDove
I forgot to add, self-serving and inconsiderate of the setting.

Are you kidding? Let's get real here. CPAC knew exactly what they were getting. She did something very similar last year. They want her because the people want to hear from her. To know feign shock is too much for my cast iron stomach to take. I hate hypocrisy no matter what the source.

Semantic totalitarianism is at the very heart of what needs to change or we've already lost.

70 posted on 03/09/2007 12:23:37 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: JeffAtlanta
"she just lives off flame throwing and getting a rise out of people"

It seems to have worked in your case.

71 posted on 03/09/2007 12:23:53 PM PST by Russ
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To: cripplecreek


I sure hope you are kidding. No one is saying she doesn't have the right to say what she did.
They are saying what she said was stupid and classless.

How would all the male freepers feel if they were all called faggots?

Its not nice, its shows a lack of class. And it wasn't funny.


72 posted on 03/09/2007 12:24:32 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: nancyvideo
She is a true individualist and an excellent role model. Conservatives should stand behind her instead of pandering to the phony, manufactured 'outrage' ginned up by leftists who seek to make their ridiculous standards and goals de facto.

.Ann....you one hot lady

73 posted on 03/09/2007 12:24:39 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: LiteKeeper

Funny how many on here spend more energy berating her or anyone else "on our side", and you never see them condemn the other side. Makes one wonder sometimes.


74 posted on 03/09/2007 12:24:49 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: DickieFlatts
" Its all about the dollars. "

Do you believe that of Jimmbo Carvil, Paul Begalla, Hissy Chrissy Mathpews et. al.?

Or is it only "evil conservatives" who draw that scorn?

Just curious.
75 posted on 03/09/2007 12:25:33 PM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: DickieFlatts; SerpentDove; avacado; HamiltonJay; NorCalRepub; Artemis Webb; A.Hun; traviskicks; ...
I suspect it plays well with 19 year old boys at the fraternity house.

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that we'll see a lot more of these kinds of VOTERS in the future; more than the 50+ Gladys Kravitz crowd who can't resist boring us on the Coulter threads

76 posted on 03/09/2007 12:26:45 PM PST by youngjim (Irony is wasted on the stupid)
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To: Al Gator
I don't consider the word faggot a vulgarity.

Languages evolve - they all do and they always have. Not all language evolution is due to political correctness.

You guys are falling right into Coulter's plan - she says something inflammatory and then the social conservatives will go to war against the democrats and demand for her television appearances will go up.

Unlike the Dixe Chicks, Coulter is not an idiot - she actually uses inflammatory statements to further her career rather than destroying it.

77 posted on 03/09/2007 12:26:55 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: traviskicks


I should get a new tagline.


If you support Ann you must be a faggot!


:)


78 posted on 03/09/2007 12:27:14 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: SerpentDove

No, but MM plays the Left's game by the Left's rules and thinks she can win.

Too many people want to criticize Ann NOT for being insulting but because of the way the Left and MSM reacted to what she said. See the difference?


79 posted on 03/09/2007 12:28:38 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: JRochelle

"How would all the male freepers feel if they were all called faggots? "

Sticks and stones and all that rot.... Young people are soooo thin skinned!

Been called faggot, its one of the nicer things my enemies say about me.

So What?


80 posted on 03/09/2007 12:28:54 PM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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