Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hillary's Thesis: The Village Needs an Enemy
Human Events ^ | March 9, 2007 | Amanda B. Carpenter

Posted on 03/09/2007 2:19:57 AM PST by FairOpinion

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
Hillary is more dangerous to the US than most people realize.

I would say she is Stalin in a skirt, except she doesn't wear skirts.

1 posted on 03/09/2007 2:19:59 AM PST by FairOpinion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

When Josef Stalin was on his deathbed he called in two likely successors, to test which one of the two had a better knack for ruling the country.

He ordered two birds to be brought in and presented one bird to each of the two candidates.

The first one grabbed the bird, but was so afraid that the bird could free himself from his grip and fly away that he squeezed his hand very hard, and when he opened his palm, the bird was dead.

Seeing the disapproving look on Stalin's face and being afraid to repeat his rival's mistake, the second candidate loosened his grip so much that the bird freed himself and flew away.

Stalin looked at both of them scornfully. "Bring me a bird!" he ordered.

They did.

Stalin took the bird by its legs and slowly, one by one, he plucked all the feathers from the bird's little body.

Then he opened his palm. The bird was laying there naked, shivering, helpless.

Stalin looked at him, smiled gently and said, "You see... and he is even thankful for the human warmth coming out of my palm."

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/stalin/stalin.html


2 posted on 03/09/2007 2:22:12 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz; Mia T; Alamo-Girl

ping


3 posted on 03/09/2007 2:39:49 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
Hillary would exterminate enemies on a grand scale.

It is commonly known Hillary demanded the assault on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco which was a well-organized slaughter of men, women and children. Vince Foster knew of Hillary's key role.

Somebody put a bullet in his head and tossed his body in Fort Marcy Park and tried to make it look like a suicide.

That's a hint of what a monster like her can do when in power.

4 posted on 03/09/2007 3:21:30 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: raybbr; Fedora; Calpernia; FairOpinion

BILL, HILLARY, SAUL, AND MORAL RELATIVISM Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary
FR POSTED | 03/23/00 | The Wanderer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886451/posts

Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky Courtesy of The Wanderer.

Saul Alinsky wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: Reveille for Radicals (1946) and Rules for Radicals (1971).

Rules for Radicals opens with a quote about Lucifer, written by Saul Alinsky: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.”

In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky says: “Here I propose to present an arrangement of certain facts and general concepts of change, a step toward a science of revolution.” He builds on the tactical principles of Machiavelli: “The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-nots on how to take it away.”

Rules for Radicals is concerned with the acquisition of power: “my aim here is to suggest how to organize for power: how to get it and how to use it.” This is not to be done with assistance to the poor, nor even by organizing the poor to demand assistance: “...[E]ven if all the low-income parts of our population were organized ... it would not be powerful enough to get significant, basic, needed changes.”

Alinsky advises the organizer to target the middle class, rather than the poor: “Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead center upon America’s white middle class. That is where the power is.”

Alinsky is interested in the middle class solely for its usefulness: “Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority.”

To accomplish this, Alinsky writes that the organizer must “begin to dissect and examine that way of life [the middle class lifestyle] ... He will know that ‘square’ is no longer to be dismissed as such -- instead his own approach must be ‘square’ enough to get the action started.”

Rules for Radicals defends belief that the end justifies the means: “to say that corrupt the ends,” writes Alinsky, “is to believe in the immaculate conception of ends and principles ... the practical revolutionary will understand ... [that] in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one’s individual conscience and the good of mankind.”

Altogether, Alinsky provides eleven rules of the ethics of means and ends. They are morally relativistic:

“The practical revolutionary will understand Goethe’s ‘conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action’; in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one’s individual conscience and the good of mankind.”

“The second rule of the ethics of the means and ends is that the judgment of the ethics of means is dependent on the political position of those sitting in judgment.” Alinsky elaborates his meaning on this point, saying that if you were a member of the underground Resistance, “... then you adopted the means of assassination, terror, property destruction, the bombing of tunnels and trains, kidnapping, and the willingness to sacrifice innocent hostages to the end of defeating the Nazi’s. Those who opposed the Nazi’s conquerors regarded the Resistance as a secret army of selfless, patriotic idealists ....” Rules for Radicals is therefore concerned with how to win. “...[I]n such a conflict, neither protagonist is concerned with any value except victory.”

“The third rule of the ethics of means and ends is that in war the ends justifies almost any means.”

“There can be no such thing as a successful traitor, for if one succeeds, he becomes a founding father.”

Rules for Radicals teaches the organizer that he must give a moral appearance (as opposed to behaving morally): “All effective action requires the passport of morality.”

The tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends states “that you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments ... Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.”

Rules for Radicals provides the organizer with a tactical style for community organization that assumes an adversarial relationship between groups of people in which one either dominates or is dominated.

“The first rule of power tactics is: power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

“Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.”

“Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this. They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

“The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself.”

“In a fight almost anything goes. It almost reaches the point where you stop to apologize if a chance blow lands above the belt.”

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

One of the criteria for picking the target is the target’s vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract.”

“The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Saul Alinsky urged the active and deliberate “conscious-raising” (Ed note: a tactic used by feminists) of people through the technique of “popular education.” Popular education is a method by which an organizer leads people to a class-based interpretation of their grievances, and to accept the organizer’s systemic solutions to address those grievances. “Through the People’s Organization these groups [of citizens] discover that what they considered primarily their individual problem is also the problem of others, and furthermore the only hope for solving an issue of titanic proportions is by pooling all their efforts and strengths. That appreciation and conclusion is an educational process.”

Rules for Radicals stresses organizational power-collecting: “The ego of the organizer is stronger and more monumental than the ego of the leader. The organizer is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which a man can reach -- to create, to be a ‘great creator’, to play God.” Alinsky considered Hillary a terrific “organizer” and wanted her to become his protege. She declined. She had bigger fish to fry. She learned her lessons well. She and Bill have employed Alinsky’s tactics probably better than anyone else.


5 posted on 03/09/2007 3:28:00 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
Hillary's Thesis: The Village Needs an Enemy

Actually...

Conservative Thesis: The Village IS THE Enemy

6 posted on 03/09/2007 4:36:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz

“The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Hold this thought!!!

7 posted on 03/09/2007 4:38:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

"Somebody put a bullet in his head and tossed his body in Fort Marcy Park and tried to make it look like a suicide."

That's not the scary part. It was covered up by the police. The Clintons have the power to come into your house, violate every one of your civil rights, rape you, steal from you and toss you into a cell and there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it.

That's what is scary. And Americans are too stupid to see it.


8 posted on 03/09/2007 4:42:21 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Liz

Thank you for that link.


9 posted on 03/09/2007 5:04:54 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

Don't miss post 5


10 posted on 03/09/2007 5:07:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

bump for later


11 posted on 03/09/2007 5:13:06 AM PST by bamahead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
Social extortionists are lauded and praised as activists. They are criminal intellects and only deserve to be ignored.

A good example is the Taco Bell boycott tour. Now they are attacking McDonalds and other franchises. Today taco bell, tomorrow the world...

12 posted on 03/09/2007 5:14:38 AM PST by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
In Selma, Ala., last weekend Hillary was trying to imitate style of black orators in the pulpit, screeching

"I DON'T FEEL NO WAYS TIRED, I COME TOO FARRRR FRUM WHERE I STARTED FRUM. NOBODY TOLD ME THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE EASY."

Even the most ignorant of potential Hillary voters can see that this "woman" is an empty pants suit who has never, in her vast political career as governor and co-president, uttered a sensible sentence.

13 posted on 03/09/2007 5:22:34 AM PST by mborman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
During her book tour in Europe a few years ago, Hillary gave an interview with Der Spiegel, a German magazine.

I saw an online copy (in German), read about the article with limited quotes translated to English, and read a bad Internet translation of the article. From the bits and pieces I read, the article showed some very socialistic comments by Lady Rodham. Surprisingly (yeh, right), those comments by Hillary never made it into the US MSM reports of her trip.

It would be interesting and, perhaps, revealing, if someone would translate that article and similar interviews Hillary has given to the foreign press.

(I don't speak nor read German. My only familiarity with that Der Spiegel interview was in some online commentaries at the time of her trip and the poor Internet webpage translation -- German to English -- I did at the time.)

===

from a 2003 FR thread: Hillary Clinton Attacks Bush,U.S. - Urges a "Globalized and Integrated World"

Clinton publicly revealed the foreign policy thrust of the Democratic Party in a remarkable moment of candor, a position Democratic leaders have not made clear to the public, but which is keenly understood and supported by Clinton.

Not only is a "globalized and integrated world" inevitable, it is a foreign policy priority of the Democratic Party.


[snip]

The socialist European expectation will be that a Democratic victory will bring into power a U.S. government more to the liking of one-world European politicians.
14 posted on 03/09/2007 5:30:10 AM PST by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz

"She said the “frustration...could be channeled into achieving radical goals. The secret, as in any organizing, is that such goals must be perceived as paralleling self-interest."

Anybody see the parallel with the Rudymaniacs, who exploit Republican "frustration" with losing and fear of Hellary to foist their left-wing candidate on us?


15 posted on 03/09/2007 5:33:00 AM PST by hellbender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Liz

Interesting that Alinsky openly speaks of admiration for Lucifer. Those of us with a Christian spiritual perspective have long recognized that leftists are just following the example of the Father of Lies. Satan's shtick in the Garden was "God didn't really tell you not to do that, did he", then "you can be your own gods."

Today we are told that "God said not to kill, but he didn't really include 'fetuses.'" We get twisted sophistry about "being personally opposed to abortion, but...." We get endless appeals to selfishness and greed by "fiscal-only" "conservatives," free-traders, and utopian libertarians. All of which follow the ancient prototype, which Alinsky advocated, but which far predates him.


16 posted on 03/09/2007 5:43:15 AM PST by hellbender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: potlatch




17 posted on 03/09/2007 7:05:21 AM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
Hillary is more dangerous to the US than most people realize.

I agree, and part of the danger is that people will underestimate her.

Thanks for the post. I didn't know her thesis had become available.
18 posted on 03/09/2007 7:06:27 AM PST by caveat emptor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hellbender; Reagan Man; Spiff; jla; dirtboy; Calpernia; Fierce Allegiance; TommyDale; ...
.....a parallel with Rudymaniacs, who exploit Republican "frustration" with losing (and fear of Hellary) to foist their left-wing candidate on us?.......

Good point.

19 posted on 03/09/2007 7:11:19 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Elsie

Okay---will do.


20 posted on 03/09/2007 7:14:15 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson