BREAKING: DEMOCRATS TO PUSH IRAQ TIMETABLE

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[SoFloFreeper]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional Democrats have decided to push a specific timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

[Deo volente]

Since conviction and removal from office requires a 2/3rds vote in the Senate, and that will be impossible to achieve, I think President Bush should just ignore the Murtha amendment, and say to the democrats, "Go ahead, Impeach me!"

The American people will realize what traitors they are, and the democrats will be swept out of power in 2008 by historic margins.

[Steel Wolf]

The President can move funds for the war from anywhere he wants in the budget.

Perhaps, but he has to get the budget first. This legislation is a snare, and it'll trip him up in more ways than one if he agrees to step in it. Frankly, I see him outright rejecting anything with this language in it, rather than leap in the trap and hope to wiggle free later.

[NonZeroSum]

Do you think Hitler would have blown his brains out in that bunker in 1945 if the U.S. congress had declared that all troops must leave Europe by the end of 1944?

He was a lot more worried at the time about the Russians tromping down the street than the US.

[rwfromkansas]

fall 2008....gee what a coincidence.

I wonder what is happening in November 2008....

cough cough

Democrat scum.

[MaestroLC]

The die is cast. As Rush says, Dems are invested in defeat. They will do anything to accomplish it. We will get attacked again, and we know who to blame. We know who will have blood on their hands. It will be their downfall in the many years ahead. It seems bad now, they may win in 2008, but ultimately they will be punished by the American people.

[ctdonath2]

They're operating on a different set of axioms.
They presume "war is bad", "war is worse than any other option", "war must be opposed at all costs", and "don't harm innocents/bystanders/noncombatants". It's just their basic starting point for whatever reason.
Being unwilling to weigh the alternatives (the notion "give war a chance" is absolutely unthinkable), their overriding goal is to stop what's happening.

Interestingly...

They also hold the axioms "we support the troops" and "bad people must be stopped".
Combining these and the prior axioms results in cognitive dissonance, with such bent results as
- pursuing non-binding resolutions saying "stop, or we'll say 'stop' again"
- authorizing funds to pay for combat they verbosely oppose
- spending years calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein from power, yet objecting when someone actually does
- calling for wars, yet expressing shock when anyone (the most violent enemy combatants included) are harmed
- confusion at the notion that war is not "surgical".

[Danae]

So I pray EVERY DAY!

[jveritas]

Frankly, I see him outright rejecting anything with this language in it, rather than leap in the trap and hope to wiggle free later

Agree, and I also believe that this treasonous bill is not going to pass in the Senate, which means it is not going to reach the President desk.

As I said in another post this is nothing more than red meat thrown by the democrats to a very angry left wing lunatic base and media who are going hysterical seeing that the traitors and the defeatists in the democrat party are too weak and too impotent when facing President Bush on the war and that they are not able to achieve anything meaningful. This treasonous bill is just for emotional satisfaction for a very delusional hate filled base but in reality it will have no effect.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

I love it!!!!!!

Just love those Slowskis!

[TYVets]

Vietnam II

A great morale builder for the military. (/S)

[lapsus calami]

 

 

 

 

 

Yep - around the clock, bug-eyed, red-faced, spittle-spraying, shrieking about it, as if Western civilization is in imminent collapse unless we leave ASAP - the reality is that it's certainly in jeopardy if we do. The jihadis have made it yet another front in their global jihad at this point - relenting in the face of that has no rewards. Only answer that comes easily concerning all the pullout talk is that it's a bunch of skullduggery for domestic political gain of a select few, and I have to wonder if any of those doing the most yelling have been promised anything by any "foreign interests" if they make that withdrawal happen. Am very curious about that. One thing that stands out in my mind is that all the opposition and bleating about Iraq originated out of Europe, then the same grousing was picked up by the MSM, slowly picking up steam there, with the marxocrats taking it up and putting voice to it at the last. I am very suspicious of these politicians who are not only speaking about, but attempting to take a course of action so ridiculous that it defies logic - especially with someone like John "Arab cash" Murtha leading the charge - in my book he is a compromised person and untrustworthy, the same going for "freezer cash" Jefferson from LA. How many more "Arab cash Murthas" do we have lurking in the halls of Congress, selling their souls to foreign machinations? Inquiring minds need to know.

 

 

 

 

 

[windsail]

RED ROVER.....RED ROVER....LET JOE LIEBERMAN COME OVER.....windsail......

[expatpat]

I used to be a Pat's fan when I lived in Mass. However, they were the Boston Patriots, then, and had guys like Babe Parelli...

[Steel Wolf]

This treasonous bill is just for emotional satisfaction for a very delusional hate filled base but in reality it will have no effect.

I don't know about that. I think it will have two tangible effects.

The first is that the jihadists will interpret this to mean that their strategy is working. Even if the legislation is defeated, it will show them that the tide is turning in their favor, and that they merely need to hold on for another couple of years. I think that much of the Middle East will understand it in similar terms.

Second, this legislation is a spearhead for the anti-war movement. Now that we've crossed this line, they see themselves as on the advance, and in truth, they are. The fact that so many legislators can put this forward means that a certain threshold in American politics has been reached, and that this sort of active opposition is both tolerable and sustainable.

Neither is an insignificant development.

[Jim Noble]

There has to be some way to make Congress's opinion null and void.

There are two. One, we have elections every two years and we replace or reelect all 435 Representatives and 33-34 Senators. Two, you can make a revolution and overthrow the government.

just gives me all the more reason to purchase a few firearms to defend myself for when the Radicals come.

You, brother, are the radical here. We govern ourselves through representatives in Congress assembled. Many representatives who supported the President's war policy were just fired and replaced with representatives who oppose it. It is perfectly proper for the new majority to act in the manner that those who elected them desire.

[sappy]

Remember when giving aid and comfort to the enemy was called TREASON?

[philsfan24]

"There's alot of things you don't know about me."

they are good. comcast gets an A in something for once.

[Polybius]

Congressional Democrats have decided to push a specific timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

Did Harry Truman ever propose a specific timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Korea?

[jveritas]

There is no doubt that every defeatist speech or legislation is going to give aid and comfort to the enemy but the liberals and their media have been doing this for the last 4 years so nothing new. I think once this bill is defeated, the terrorist enemy will realize more and more that the democrats are much weaker than they have hoped for.

In regards to the anti-war treasonous movement, I do not think it will reach 10% of what it was during Vietnam.

[Eva]

Before this vote is taken, let's ask Mrs. Clinton and Barack Obama what they think Presidential powers should be, and whether they would accept limits on Presidential powers should they win the Presidency.