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From what I've been able to tell...the deck was gonna be stacked against Libby jury wise no matter how much they objected. D.C. is a Lib haven...they couldn't have found 12 "objective" jurors if you'd looked up the definition and read it to them.

Both sides get a limited amount of objections to potential jurors if I understand the selection process properly...I'm guessing that this jury was the best they could get from the pool.

Which isn't saying much.


16 posted on 03/07/2007 7:51:43 AM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: txradioguy
From what I've been able to tell...the deck was gonna be stacked against Libby jury wise no matter how much they objected. D.C. is a Lib haven...they couldn't have found 12 "objective" jurors if you'd looked up the definition and read it to them.

I'm just not convinced of this. If they could end up with 10 white jurors in a city that is overwhelmingly minority, I have to suspect that they could have found some of the city's nonliberals.

23 posted on 03/07/2007 7:55:28 AM PST by freespirited (Demand perfection, get Hillary.)
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To: txradioguy

This guy was Juror #9 -- they couldn't have used up all the objections as they were considering Juror #9. It was clear from the interview yesterday that this guy was Fitz's representative and advocate in the jury room. He walked these jurors through a meticulous recounting of all of the "evidence" that supported Libby's conviction -- Post-It Notes tied to every witness... But let's ignore all the mis-remembering and bad memories of the many jurors. And let's accept Fitz's concluding arguments that made this trial all about getting Cheney and Bush -- making statements that were not supported by any evidence brought into the trial. And the Judge (a Bush Appointee!) allowing all of this to happen and showing outrage when Libby wasn't put on the stand!

Look up "Show-Trial" in websters and the Libby Trial will start playing on You-Tube.


28 posted on 03/07/2007 7:58:42 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: txradioguy
"stacked jury"

Collin's remarks after the trial pretty much told the story. If he and the other jurors were wondering whey Cheney and Rove weren't on trial as Collins post-trial remarks indicated, they should never have been jury members. His remarks revealed that even though they thought Libby was innocent, they were going to convict some member of the Bush admin. Some fair trial, huh? Libby never had a chance.

29 posted on 03/07/2007 7:58:47 AM PST by driftless2
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To: txradioguy
The President should pardon Libby, if appeal doesn't clear this verdict.

HOWEVER, Libby did recite false testimony to the investigating FBI agents prior to Fitzfool becoming the SP. Then Libby repeated and compounded the false statements to the grand jury when he only needed to claim he had trouble recalling the exact conversations. It is likely that Libby was instructed to discuss the Wilsons with reporters, because Wilson was lying about the administration and about the report he gave regarding yellow cake ... and Plame was no longer a protected agent.

The presidential pardon should be issued because this was obviously a witch hunt seeking to smear the administration.

Fitzfool is the villain most prominent in this democrat scheme so Libby really is a scapegoat, but for the democrats' scheme to get the Bush administration. The very visible lies now being spittled out by the democrats and their talking points media whores proves the scheme was/is a real assault and that Libby was their raw meat.

36 posted on 03/07/2007 8:05:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: txradioguy

If I remember correctly, Pincus was called as a defense witness to discredit Ari Fliescher -- so they would have seen his knowing Pincus as a good thing, not a bad thing.

Still, it seems odd not to object to this guy.


116 posted on 03/07/2007 11:49:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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