Posted on 03/06/2007 5:39:37 PM PST by markomalley
These same people are the ones who scream absolute bloody murder when the President exercises what power he has (which admittedly isn't much) in an effort to prevent genocide of the pre-born.
there are also the ones who think that because Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned, Bush did nothing. prolife warriors know that there are small victories and that it isn't an all or nothing proposition. i saw an interesting bumper sticker at Mass last week, it said "National Security begins in the womb."
As you can see in these pictures of aborted babies.
Second Trimester abortion photos
Photos of aborted babies retrieved from dumpsters
Now, you can avoid looking at these photos. But other people here will look at them, and they'll see that your claim that abortion is not murder is, well, irrational.
There is an opinion according to which a human becomes a human not even at birth, but only at reaching the age of reason.
Good 'ol Peter Sanger. A real winner, that one!
Fortunately, his philosophy hasn't become dominant in this country (yet).
Do fetal tissue harvesters harvest human tissues for sale to research programs? ... In your faulty reasoning, the tissues are not from humans; there must be some magic which allows these tissues to become human tissue between the harvesting in abortuaries and the arrival at the research institute. Nice reasoning you got there, slob.
It is much older than Peter Sanger. I was not aware that he was alive in Aristotle's times, but maybe he was. Do not remind him, or he will file a back claim and bankrupt the Social Security system even faster.
With two divorces, three marriages, strong support for pro-choice, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gay union and other weird an sordid public behavior under his belt, Rudy has hardly "acted the part" of a Catholic.
"Lots and lots of Catholics get divorces"
Most Catholics do not cheat on their multiple wives, and are not divorced once, let alone twice and on their third marriage. Most also do not support partial birth abortion, nor are they as pro-choice as Guiliani, nor do they support marriage or civil unions for homosexuals.
" and vote Democrat.
Voting democratic was not an issue in our discussion.
" Most RCs I know are Democrats. So there is no spies to me when a Republican RC is a liberal."
Who said anything about a surprise? The term used was "hypocrite." Guiliani either is a Catholic and makes a strong attempt to live by his faith, or he isn't and doesn't. He cannot be both.
I don't trust someone who betrays his faith and/or betrays his multiple wives (in and of itself a betrayal to his faith and a betrayal within a betrayal).
My point was that he isn't betraying his faith any more than more of the RCs I know.
And my point is that he (Guiliani) is.
How many people who define themselves as Catholic are on their third marriage? I don't know one. And I know many, many people, most of whom define themselves as Catholic.
thanks for the info.
Nope. Rudy just doesn't need the NCR. And he will beat hillary - with the help of my vote. Why do I like him? Because he gets the job done - the only candidate that gave money back to an arab terrorist.
These pro-Rudy RINOs don't want Catholics, don't want pro-Lifers, don't want social or religious conservatives in the republican party. However when they lose (AND THEY WILL!)Then it'll all be the fault of the real conservatives for being "too pure". Funny, we want more candidates who are more pure, they want republican voters who are more pure. Who are the real purists?
The main arguments of the "Rutards":
1. "He will stop Hillary" - You don't win with a negative, folks.
2. "He is good on foreign policy." Really? I haven't seen any of Rudy's writings in Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, National Interest, etc. Most of his speeches on the subject are superficial, and sound like they were xeroxed from Commentary and the Weekly Standard. No vision, no REALISM.
3. "Remember 9/11!" - This is a fetish. 'Nuff said.
4. "He will grow more conservative in office, and will appoint strict constructionist to the bench." This is what they said about Pataki, Whitman, and John Rowland. We all know how THOSE folks turned out.
5. "He's a fiscal conservative." Really? New York was a union dominated, high tax hellhole when Rudy took office. It REMAINS a high tax hellhole, despite the modest tax cuts proposed by Giussolini.
6. "He's America's Mayor." As said by the Murdoch media empire. Ruling over a city where third world immigrants and their children are a MAJORITY of the population, and white Christians are a small minority, where Republicans are outnumbered 5-1 and where most of those who voted for him also voted for Schumer and Kerry. Anyone else remember the old New Yorker cartoon showing Manhattan as an island off the coast of America?
Why? Abortion is the law right now. Some of us don't think it's the most important issue at this juncture. If you do, FINE. But by supporting Rudy, I think you know that. So go do what you have to and leave us alone. In fact, go start your own party....
You forgot to use the word "greasy," refer to "Mayor Linguine," and diss the "sidecurl Mafia."
: )
Am I the only one who is resentful towards a cult in Brooklyn that gives all of their votes to Rudy and all of their votes to Schumer? Get out of Medieval times, Bobovers! ;-)
Schumer: Good friend of Israel.
Why are Jews suddenly superannuated Tammany patsies and half a millennium behind the times for both of supporting them?
shd rd: "for supporting both of them"
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