Verdict in Libby Trial in....reading at noon. (Guilty On 4 of 5 Charges)

MSNBC

[Dog]

Breaking on MSNBC

[prairiebreeze]

Nothing he said suggested that they convicted him because they wanted to "get" Cheney.

It was Heavily inferred.

[LS]

But you can "cooperate" and still have strange lapses of memory. It's also another argument for having the Justice Dept. GO AFTER all of these leakers and reporters, all the time.

[homer777]

"What was the crime before the investigation? The entire 'investigation' was a set up because there WAS no crime."

Ugh, the CIA demanded an investigation into the leaking of Plame's name to determine if a crime had been committed. That's why Fitzgerald got involved -- to investigate the matter. Libby committed obstruction of justice and perjury -- i.e. crimes -- when he lied to investigators. So, what Libby did was commit crimes to prevent the determination of whether the leaking of Plame's name was a crime. The CIA had to assert that Plame was covert in order for there to be an investigation in the first place. Got it?

[oceanview]

when did the CIA claim Plame was covert?

[voltaires_zit]

> You figure it out.

In other words, it doesn't matter, but it lets you feel suitably outraged?

[prairiebreeze]

not only was he a WaPo reporter...but wasn't he a neighbor of Bob Woodward???

Really?? Would be intersting to know.

If one wants Denis' contact info one only has to contact his publisher.

:^/

[GOP_Muzik]

Man the trolls are out in full force today!!

[Dave S]

Utter crap.

So you think more than a third believe Libby is on trial for leaking or you believe that?

[saveliberty]

A fews days ago, the jury asked for clarification of the Cooper charge but didn't ask a question. They sent a note repeating the charge and Judge Walton wrote back that he didn't understand what they were asking him.

The jury then did a Gilda Radner "nevermind"

[P-Marlowe]

I looked it up. In Criminal cases it is called a directed verdict and not a Judgment notwithstanding the verdict. The judge can order an aquittal following a guilty verdict if he believes that the evidence did not justify the finding of guilt. The prosecution can appeal. A judge may not issue a guilty order following an aquittal or a hung jury, but he may issue a directed verdict of not-guilty.

Let us hope the judge sees through this travesty and does the right thing. But I'm not holding my breath.

[Lucky9teen]

Libby Guilty, Cheney Gets 30 Years, Bush Impeached

[maggief]

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[lugsoul]

when they made a criminal referral

[prairiebreeze]

Wow, another poster cheering for the Libby indictment.

They're crawling out of the woodwork today.

[Howlin]

Isn't that the truth.

[machogirl]

since some of these posts are getting ugly, time for a helen thomas pic

[STARWISE]

Sorry -- my brain is totally scrambled.

interference = inference

[Red Steel]

I'm not outraged. I do make it a point when the law is used nefariously.

Are you a troll - zit?

[homer777]

"the entire grand jury was a perjury trap. it wasn't investigating any actual crime once the facts regarding her status (not covert) were understood."

All Libby had to do was not lie and he could not have been convicted of perjury or obstruction of justice. Libby's crime was lying to investigators. Plame status was and is irrelevant to Libby's crimes.

The whole issue of whether leaking Plame's name was a crime or not wasn't even part of this trial. If that were the issue in this trial then the facts surrounding her status would have been relevant, but for the purposes of this trial, those facts are irrelevant and always will be irrelevant

[ohioWfan]

The CIA had to assert that Plame was covert in order for there to be an investigation in the first place. Got it?

Please provide a link documenting that information.

Thank you.