Giuliani Estranged From His Children

CBS News ^ | 3/5/2007 | staff

[George W. Bush]

Updated:2007-03-05 14:55:26

Giuliani Estranged From His Children

Some Say Personal Problems May Hurt Prospects

CBS News

NEW YORK (March 5) -- It doesn't look like Rudy Giuliani's two children will have a role in his presidential campaign. According to press reports, the GOP frontrunner's third marriage has alienated his son, Andrew, 21, and daughter, Caroline, 18, from their father.

Giuliani's 21-year-old son, Andrew, told the New York Times that he would be too busy working on his golf game to participate in his father's presidential campaign.

"There's obviously a little problem that exists between me and his wife," the younger Giuliani told the newspaper. "And we're trying to figure that out. But as of right now it's not working as well as we would like."

Giuliani's marriage to his third wife, Judith Nathan, followed his divorce from Donna Hanover, the mother of Andrew and Caroline.

In 2000, Giuliani announced during a live TV interview that he planned to divorce Hanover. She responded by publicly accusing Giuliani of adultery.

Caroline Giuliani has not spoken publicly, but the Times and New York's tabloid newspapers reported that she was also alienated from her father as a result of his marriage to Nathan.

The New York Daily News reported that Giuliani rarely spends time with his children and that he had failed to attend many important events in their lives, including Andrew's golf tournaments and Caroline's school plays.

Andrew Giuliani is a sophomore at Duke and a member of the school's golf team. Caroline attends a private Catholic school in Manhattan. She will attend Harvard University in the fall. Giuliani has had no comment on his relationship with his children.

Giuliani holds a huge lead in the polls over GOP presidential rival John McCain, but some political analysts believe the former New York Mayor's estrangement from his children and other personal problems is bound to inflict political damage.

Political analyst Charles Cook told Newsday that the latest twist would hurt Giuliani with the GOP's conservative voters.

"This is just going to be one of a thousand cuts," Cook told the newspaper. "This will just sort of fit into a whole constellation of issues that work against someone winning a conservative party's nomination, a party that thinks of itself as a pro-family party. This just makes it really hard."

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[Redmen4ever]

I consider people who comment on other people's personal problems, as though they know who is or who are at fault when the plain fact is they are talking through their hat, to be violating the Biblical rule regarding backbiting.

[P-Marlowe]

I consider people who comment on other people's personal problems, as though they know who is or who are at fault when the plain fact is they are talking through their hat, to be violating the Biblical rule regarding backbiting.

Well excuuuuuuussssseeeee Meeeeeeee.

The fact that I think adulterous gun-grabbing two-timing cradle-robbing cross-dressing abortion proponents ought not to be considered for the office of President of the United States is, I guess, my personal problem.

So' I'd appreciate it if you stopped your backbiting.

[presently no screen name]

What part of 'control freak' don't you see in yourself? What YOU think Rudy should have done concerning HIS health problems is reason enough foryou to say "claimed illness". Rudy either does what YOU think is the right approach concerning His health problems or he is faking it. What a warped controlling mindset you have! While feeding your desire to trash Rudy, you outed yourself.

[Ben Mugged]

You mistake me for a Rudy supporter. I'm a Rudy tolerator.

[goodnesswins]

Yep....and you are perfect.

[CremeSaver]

"Yes, and I remember Rush talking about going to some party someplace where the little heathen broke bad all day at the swimming pool without any direction from either parent in regard to his behavior or lack thereof. LOL! "

Oh no, lol, I missed that story. I don't remember the daughter at all, though, she must keep a low profile. I know that Donna was the talk of the town as her behavior was generally considered pretty bizarre.

[penowa]

"I don't remember the daughter at all..."

I didn't remember her either, just the little boy acting up. I had not realized that he could be 21 now, so that's been a long time ago and I had not realized how long.

[MonTinaGirl]

You marry a woman, you're faithful to her and the children, just as you vowed. Then you won't have a divorce.

It's just that simple. Hahahah. Very funny!

[Palladin]

...mote...log...

[Palladin]

Maybe because I know WE ARE ALL SINNERS. We have ALL FALLEN SHORT.

Some of you blue-haired, pearl-wearing old biddies act like you never heard of REPENTANCE or FORGIVENESS.

[Palladin]

All great points!

[Primetimedonna]

Rudys personal life is really biting him in the ass.
Lousy grammar, swearing, and forgetting that two of Reagan's kids were an embarrassment and at times estranged from him and it didn't seem to hurt his presidency any.

Amazing the revision of history that goes on around here on occasion, especially when it comes to memories of Ronald Reagan. I too loved the man, but he had flaws too. Someone earlier on this thread said he didn't have multiple divorces.....I guess one is okay, but not two? We'll be needing a scorecard..... ;>)

[justiceseeker93]

Andrew Giuliani is a sophomore at Duke and a member of the school's golf team.

Well, good for Rudy that his son isn't a member of the lacrosse team. Imagine what kind of joy that would bring to the likes of CBS.

And do you really think that Chelsea is on good terms with Bubba and Tubba?

Although I'm not a huge Giuliani fan, this CBS article is entirely irrelevant to 2008 presidential race. Its obvious purpose is to siphon off "conservative" support from him.

Let's decide the GOP nomination and the general election on the basis of positions on the important public issues, not on a candidate's personal relationship with his son.

[Kevmo]

As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.

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http://www.gohunter08.com/



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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Transcript of video below.




Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?

Culture of life:

ABC clip:

George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."

Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:

Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."

Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Immigration

CNN clip:

Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."

Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."

Gun control:

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"

Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."

Gay Rights:

CNN Clip:

Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."

ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"

Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."

First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."

Party Loyalty:

ABC Clip:

Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."

Conservative Values:

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."

Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."

Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!

End clip.

[Coldwater Creek]

You are pathetic!

[Candor7]

You mistake me for a Rudy supporter. I'm a Rudy tolerator>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its hard to tell. Anyway, sorry for the confusion on my part.

I and many of my friends are Rudy Intolerators. I do not think he has the winning power that many say he has ( 20% of Republicans will not vote for him, how can he be a winner in that case?), and even if I did have, I still wouldn't ever vote for him on any ticket.

[plain talk]

Don't tell me what 'we' should do. ... don't vote for him - but more importantly - don't trash him.

I suggest we should compare our leaders to Reagan and you protest stating "don't tell me what to do" and then proceed to tell ME what to do. LOL.

I realize there are people who are happy with electing a RINO NY mayor as President. But some of us have higher standards in regard to the primary. Once the primary is done we should all rally around the Republican nominee. But until then we should push for as conservative a nominee as we can get. This is primary election Presidential politics 101.

[Fawn]

The polls will turn? Over this? Over spoiled children? Don't hold your breath.

[presently no screen name]

I suggest we should compare our leaders to Reagan and you protest stating "don't tell me what to do" and then proceed to tell ME what to do. LOL.

In your constant need to rush to judgement - you don't get the facts right. Show me where I said 'don't tell me what to do".

[plain talk]

Post #149

You said "Don't tell me what 'we' should do. I don't do that. "