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Rudy Beats Hillary – End of Story
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 4 March 2007 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/05/2007 6:45:59 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

This weekend we were at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. All but one of the 2008 Republican candidates were there. The conservatives sought to buttress their support from the right, to seek the support of the whole party. Rudy Guiliani was there to show he doesn’t have two heads. John McCain, to his disgrace and harm, did not bother to show.

We had a chance to hear the candidates. We came away with an conclusion which we shared with Bill Schneider of CNN in an interview. Since our mailbox didn’t fill up with e-mails about that interview, we presume it didn’t air. Here’s our conclusion:

Rudy Guiliani will defeat Hillary Clinton to become the next President of the United States.

Here’s why: Conservatives of different stripes, and on different issues, like Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback, Duncan Hunter, possibly Newt Gingrich, were at this conference seeking the “enthusiastic support” of the conservatives in the Republican Party. Each got some of that, with most of it at the CPAC meeting going to Mitt Romney.

But this is the simple, real world truth; the Republican Party consists of more than just the bedrock conservatives – even if they were monolithic, which they are not. And the 51% that it takes to win a national election consists of more than just the Republican Party.

Look at the polls which have come out in the last two weeks. All show the same pattern. Guiliani leads among Republicans, and he also leads against all currently-known Democrats. Why is that? The answer jumps out of the statistics. Many more independents and Democrats – yes, Democrats – support Guiliani, than any other Republican.

On the other side of the equation, it seems clear that the Hillary Clinton juggernaut will roll over all challengers, beginning with Barack Obama, and extending to the hapless John Edwards. But her statistics in a general election are weak. She has more in-house support, from her own party, than any other candidate. But when you get beyond her party, she is the weakest candidate among independents and the opposite party.

It’s happened before to both Republican and Democrat candidates. A particular candidate “owns” the nomination; no one could stop him (and now her). On the other hand, it’s clear even during the nomination process that this candidate would probably fail in the general election. Like lemmings, the party follows him (now her) over the cliff in the next election.

We watched something happen while Guiliani was speaking to the largely skeptical audience at CPAC. It demonstrated why those polling results are correct, and why Rudy will win both the Republican nomination and the general election.

First, he didn’t lie to the audience, or tapdance around them. Repeatedly, he said “we do not agree on all things.” He went on to discuss the five points he thought mattered. One was education, about which Guiliani said, “I made a mistake.” Originally, he thought he could improve the public schools themselves. Now, he has concluded that only parental choice to take their children out of failed public schools, will force them to improve.

Admitting a mistake, and taking a new and better direction, is a rare and attractive quality in a politician. Rudy showed that.

But most of all, he concentrated on his factual accomplishments in years of public service. He demonstrated he’s not just a man of words and slogans, but a man of accomplishment – in a rough environment and against high odds. That quality, actually doing things rather than forever spouting vague promises and idle slogans, will lead to Guiliani’s victory over Hillary Clinton.

The last ditch defense of some conservatives against Guiliani is attacking his sexuality through pictures of him when dressed as a woman for a charitable group. I mean, what man hasn’t dressed as a woman for charity?

Paint and Powder is a Baltimore organization that’s close to a century and a half old. In the beginning, it was all male. It’s long since coeducational, but it retains a “drag” routine in its shows. The largest men are cast as the females, and the smallest as the males, because that made the dances funnier.

I can vouch for the fact that it’s darned difficult to dance in high heels. I can also vouch for the fact that fishnet stockings make the soles of your feet look and feel like you’ve been standing on a waffle iron. No pictures survive of me in a wig and a Carmen Miranda dress. The American electorate can take a joke, and expect their politicians to be real humans rather than stuffed shirts. So, such attacks on Guiliani (or me) won’t amount to a hill of beans.

Expect Guiliani to carry most of the Bush states plus several of the Kerry-Gore states, and win going away.

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About the Author: John Armor is a lawyer specializing in constitutional law, who may again be a candidate for Congress in the 11th District of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cpac; duncanhunter; duncanloses2all; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; guiliani; hillary; hillaryclinton; kevmospam; lol; mittromney
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To: Oystir
Even BB didn't say I was wrong.

Of course you were.

221 posted on 03/06/2007 12:12:10 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: zarf

Or the Ted Haggard evangelical vote.


222 posted on 03/06/2007 12:58:09 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: Oystir
Even BB didn't say I was wrong.

He's far too polite for that.

223 posted on 03/06/2007 2:45:38 AM PST by wireman
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To: Congressman Billybob
I believe that Rudy is ahead of Hillary, but I'm not sure that he or anyone else can beat her. Most of these polls consist of likely or registered voters. Unfortunately, Hillary's going to pick up both unlikely voters & newly registered voters among (young) women. Some will vote for her her just because she's a woman & others due to their continuing educational indoctrination. Of course, I hope I'm wrong.


224 posted on 03/06/2007 2:59:20 AM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: nutmeg; Congressman Billybob
articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy


225 posted on 03/06/2007 3:44:37 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen, SnowFlake, and Eeevil Doer.)
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To: staytrue
I watched the video and your post is slanderous and taken out of context. Your stupid attempt at character assasination is beneath a conservative and more befitting the CBS NEWS.

The whole quote is "I would like to run on all the lines, the conservative line, the liberal line, I would like to run on the Democratic line if I could figure out how to do it"


LOL! You all are comical. And you're ridiculous to say that video takes him out of context. He's finished because only his PR started him.
226 posted on 03/06/2007 4:41:22 AM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: Congressman Billybob
So that's it?

Hemlock or arsenic?

Pardon me if I am not quite ready to drink the Kool-Aid!

227 posted on 03/06/2007 5:03:35 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: Mr. Brightside

That "leftist wacko" will support our military and continue the fight against terrorism. That's what counts in my book.


228 posted on 03/06/2007 5:09:13 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: nutmeg

This ought to be fun.


229 posted on 03/06/2007 5:12:14 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: staytrue
Feb 8 2008 is not very early, besides that is the first primary.

Right now all we have are name popularity polls.

Nothing more, they have not even started to address issues, nor have the voters even started to listen.
230 posted on 03/06/2007 5:16:22 AM PST by stockpirate (Rudy would be Very Bad for this country and Very Bad for the Republican Party!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
But stick to the observable facts.

OK. The fact is I'm not going to support a man whose policies are closer to Clinton than Reagan!

231 posted on 03/06/2007 5:16:53 AM PST by airborne ("Why in the hell are we so afraid of being what we are?" HUNTER 2008!)
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To: staytrue

Unlike previous years, this time the end comes very early, like Feb 5, 2008.




Heck if you don't have 20-30 mill by labor day your roadkill.


232 posted on 03/06/2007 5:17:35 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: TitansAFC
And that's an observable fact.

Maybe it's an observalbe fact in your and some other minds posting here, but it obviously isn't an observable fact in my mind and many other minds posting here.

233 posted on 03/06/2007 5:17:42 AM PST by billva
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To: Congressman Billybob

You've got the right message for the right man for the right job, BB! Carry on....


234 posted on 03/06/2007 5:17:48 AM PST by auto power
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To: muffaletaman

Put it in writing.


235 posted on 03/06/2007 5:35:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: supercat
What's wrong with Mitt Romney?

I think (emphasis on THINK, I'm willing to be proven wrong) that he's a phony, and my concern is that he's phony enough to win the nomination and not phony enough to win the general.

236 posted on 03/06/2007 5:35:36 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: ApplegateRanch

---If they hold the Gospel very dear, why would they prefer an Cathlolic-in-name-only, serial divorcer, pro-abortion, pro-gay candidate, over an anti-gay agenda, anti-abortion, conservative Mormon??

Are they really that religiously bigoted?---

Certainly, I didn't suggest that they would prefer the G-man. It is interesting, by the way, how many "conservatives" here think that mainline Protestant docrtrine is "religious bigotry".


237 posted on 03/06/2007 6:20:02 AM PST by claudiustg
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To: staytrue
Try 3 % which is the current combined polling of "true conservatives" Hunter, Tancredo and Brownback.

Is that the same 3% which caused a Republican bloodletting in the 2006 elections?

Anybody with enough functioning brain cells to remember the closeness of the past two presidential elections would not be selling a divisive candidate such as Rudy. Unless, of course, their specific intent is to damage the GOP.

Rudy is such a poor representation of the Republican platform, his nomination would be remembered as the moment that the GOP shot itself in the foot -- with a nuke.

238 posted on 03/06/2007 6:25:11 AM PST by InfraRed
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To: popdonnelly

"It's better to win with Guiliani than to lose with a "true conservative", whoever that may be."

How is it better to win with Rudy? When the man you elected treats you the same as the opponent, who do you complain to? You seem to be willing to give up a lot to win...why?


239 posted on 03/06/2007 6:52:04 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Rudy Beats Hillary – End of Story

Either way, the liberals win. - The REST of the story.

240 posted on 03/06/2007 6:55:17 AM PST by OB1kNOb (After 20+ LONG years, a REAL conservative I can support 4 President - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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