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I Have Seen the Future: It Is Giuliani (Red State.com)
Red State.com ^ | 3/5/07 | Eric Erkickson

Posted on 03/05/2007 1:11:47 PM PST by meg88

Today I have seen the future and that future is President Rudy.

It's not that I'm voting for Rudy, but the vacuum to be filled has been filled.

Consider this:

Rudy Giuliani and Tony Snow are the only guys who have had to have fire marshals bar people from entering due to overcapacity in a very big room.

In the green room, Giuliani's speech was the only one to cause everyone to sit down, shut up and watch.

More and more, the conservatives at CPAC are realigning. You have the Brownback folks, the Mitt folks, and the people who are headed quickly to Rudy. And you know what? They are more or less cheerful in doing it.

They've found the guy who knows he needs them to get in the door. They know the calculus Rudy has made -- the conservatives aren't selling out their principles; Rudy is telling them he won't impose his social view on them, but he'll keep them safe.

After all, abortion is not an issue when a terrorist has killed you.

Look for all guns to turn on Rudy now. He's been the frontrunner all along and now the rest of the pack realizes it.

The reception he got at CPAC should worry them.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: beatsduncanlikeadrum; cpac; giuliani; gungrabber; partysplitter; rudy2008
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To: Maeve
Like your support of Rudy Giuliani, you have that wrong. Abortion is permissible in certain circumstances under current Islamic law as it was in practice during the time of the Crusades.

No, you're wrong. Take a look at the abortion laws in states where the Sharia is enforced. All of them prohibit abortion except to save the life of the mother.
21 posted on 03/05/2007 1:25:41 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: meg88

Get used to it Duncanistas.


22 posted on 03/05/2007 1:25:45 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: jdm

I remember that too, I didn't see Snow's speech though, I got kicked out from where I was standing in the back of the room.


23 posted on 03/05/2007 1:26:45 PM PST by Raymann
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To: meg88

I am not on the Rudy Bandwagon. Actually, I'm not on anybody's bandwagon this early in the campaign season.

I was very, very impressed with his actions following 9/11, and he did a great job of cleaning up NYC during his term as mayor. However, his social stands and personal affairs make it very difficult to support him for higher office.

Nevertheless, it's easy enough to see why people are lining up behind him. Celebrity sells, and if you don't think so, just look at the most successful politician to call himself a Republican in California.

What the County needs is a candidate with character and vision. What it will probably elect is a celebrity. When it's time to mark my ballot, I'll probably have to choose the celebrity that I think will do the least damage.


24 posted on 03/05/2007 1:26:52 PM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: dirtboy

When you figure out a way for the UNborn to vote then you might have a point.

Are you ready to concede that Hunter came out of the CPAC terribly weakened. I say his campaign is dead.


25 posted on 03/05/2007 1:26:56 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: meg88

I am so thankful Ronald Reagan is not alive to see the end of his revolution.


26 posted on 03/05/2007 1:27:37 PM PST by msnimje (If we have a choice of two PRO ABORTION candidates, this country is doomed.)
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To: meg88

Not going to happen. If we are going to have a gun grabbing pro-abortion gay sympathizer she won't be named Rudy.


27 posted on 03/05/2007 1:27:42 PM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: meg88

Heaven help us.


28 posted on 03/05/2007 1:28:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
When you figure out a way for the UNborn to vote then you might have a point.

Good point. The unborn aren't going to win this election.

Are you ready to concede that Hunter came out of the CPAC terribly weakened.

Well, I don't. That would be like saying that an unreadable manuscript lost its remaining ink.
29 posted on 03/05/2007 1:29:24 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: msnimje

Wasn't Rudy a part of the Reagan team?


30 posted on 03/05/2007 1:30:20 PM PST by meg88
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To: meg88
If the Republicans are going to pick Rudy as their man I just hope they get on board quickly.

With the Republicans and Democrats BOTH standing far left of Center 18 months before the election it will be the best opportunity since Perot for a 3rd party candidate to get a plurality of the vote.

31 posted on 03/05/2007 1:30:44 PM PST by Verax ("Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Oh, it will since there is NO candidate which can beat him."

Anything is possible, but I have to disagree with you. My SIL and her family were visiting from Illinois this weekend. They started talking about what a great president they thought Rudy would be. Knowing my SIL as I do, I asked her how she got past the abortion issue to support Rudy. Turns out she was not aware of his position. My BIL did not know how Rudy felt about civil unions.

By the time they left town this morning, they were no longer Rudy supporters. This is going to happen more and more everyday with an increasing number of people.

32 posted on 03/05/2007 1:31:18 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Crimson Elephant

The election isn't for another 22 months. Nobody has "waited too long".

Howard Dean was inevitable 2 months before the Iowa Caucus.


33 posted on 03/05/2007 1:31:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

In the Rudy vs. Hillary FR poll 69.3% of FReepers would vote for Rudy.

This is FAR higher than the percentage of the general electorate who would vote for him.

Not that this means you shouldn't vote for someone else in the primaries. I might not vote for Rudy in the primary but he will wipe the floor with any opponents in the Illinois primary.

Who could possibly beat him in the primaries North of the Mason-Dixon line? McCain is the only one with any chance and he is roundly hated especially here.


34 posted on 03/05/2007 1:32:10 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: meg88

Was this at the same CPAC that voted for Romney in the straw?


35 posted on 03/05/2007 1:32:12 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: LtdGovt

At the moment, what amazes me is that a year before the primaries, so many people have already conceded the election to a liberal, and are just trying to figure out how to make it THEIR liberal instead of the other side's liberal.


36 posted on 03/05/2007 1:32:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: meg88

Any way you cut it, we lose in '08. I'm very concerned that the conservative right is about to get pushed to margins in the same way the liberal left has been. i.e., welcome to the pay-no-mind list.


37 posted on 03/05/2007 1:32:48 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: bnelson44
"early 2008 frontrunners"

Forgive my ignorance, but we know who the frontrunners a year from now are?

38 posted on 03/05/2007 1:33:08 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: LtdGovt

"All of them prohibit abortion except to save the life of the mother." What humanitarians, I am shocked at such liberalism.


39 posted on 03/05/2007 1:33:35 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Are you ready to concede that Hunter came out of the CPAC terribly weakened. I say his campaign is dead."

I saw no such thing. Wishful thinking on your part. You act like the first caucus is tomorrow.

40 posted on 03/05/2007 1:33:48 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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