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'It Is Just Not Walter Reed' - Soldiers Share Troubling Stories Of Military Health Care Across U.S.
Washington Post ^ | March 5, 2007 | Anne Hull and Dana Priest

Posted on 03/05/2007 12:36:05 PM PST by neverdem

Ray Oliva went into the spare bedroom in his home in Kelseyville, Calif., to wrestle with his feelings. He didn't know a single soldier at Walter Reed, but he felt he knew them all. He worried about the wounded who were entering the world of military health care, which he knew all too well. His own VA hospital in Livermore was a mess. The gown he wore was torn. The wheelchairs were old and broken.

"It is just not Walter Reed," Oliva slowly tapped out on his keyboard at 4:23 in the afternoon on Friday. "The VA hospitals are not good either except for the staff who work so hard. It brings tears to my eyes when I see my brothers and sisters having to deal with these conditions. I am 70 years old, some say older than dirt but when I am with my brothers and sisters we become one and are made whole again."

Oliva is but one quaking voice in a vast outpouring of accounts filled with emotion and anger about the mistreatment of wounded outpatients at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Stories of neglect and substandard care have flooded in from soldiers, their family members, veterans, doctors and nurses working inside the system. They describe depressing living conditions for outpatients at other military bases around the country, from Fort Lewis in Washington state to Fort Dix in New Jersey. They tell stories -- their own versions, not verified -- of callous responses to combat stress and a system ill equipped to handle another generation of psychologically scarred vets.

The official reaction to the revelations at Walter Reed has been swift, and it has exposed the potential political costs of ignoring Oliva's 24.3 million comrades -- America's veterans -- many of whom are among the last standing...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: health; medicine
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The VA hospitals are not good either except for the staff who work so hard.

In general, I wouldn't doubt that. Welcome to universal health care, aka socialized medicine. Lefty WaPo, keep doing your muckraking!

1 posted on 03/05/2007 12:36:12 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

the VA being cesspools is hardly news??????????


2 posted on 03/05/2007 12:41:00 PM PST by 100-Fold_Return (Sell Low--Buy Lower)
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To: neverdem

I had neurosurgery in a military hospital and have not suffered further. That said, I WILL NOT step foot in a VA hospital if I can avoid it.


3 posted on 03/05/2007 12:42:49 PM PST by Grunthor (You must go through the valley to stand upon the mountain.)
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To: neverdem

If the muck is there, shouldn't someone rake it?


4 posted on 03/05/2007 12:43:13 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: neverdem

The VA cannot fire a bad employee without an act of congress. It is the bottom level that collects the very worst employees.

In a less public forum, I could tell you horror stories.


5 posted on 03/05/2007 12:43:48 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: neverdem

Who wants Government run health care again?

Not anyone in the military, The Air Force hospitals are not called the "Medical Hobby Shop" for nothing.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:19 PM PST by McCloud-Strife (John McCain: great American, poor Senator, Horrible Republican)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

Hardly news, I agree. But, what about the timing of this "revelation?"

Comgresscritters have been receiving complaints for decades, why the sudden interest when they have ignored it for so long?


7 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:27 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: neverdem

It's not just the facilities. Tricare is a frigging nightmare.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:39 PM PST by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: neverdem

Pffft. I could have told the Washington Post that if they'd asked me.

Socialized medicine, while free, absolutely sucks.

Three years ago, I had to drive an hour and a half each way, pregnant, just for regular OB/GYN checkups because none of the local doctors (thanks, Monterey, California) would see military dependents.

I ended up paying out of pocket just to save myself the stress.


9 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:44 PM PST by USArmySpouse
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'It Is Just Not Walter Reed'

AND, it's just NOT in the medical field. It seems to be pervavise in all areas. My sister's husband is in the Navy, and he was assigned to a small island near Italy, La Madellena. The family went with him, his wife and 4 kids. Well, when my sister got there, he was sent out on a mission, and SHE had to find housing. They managed to find a tiny apt. but they could only stay there a few months. After that, they had to find a new place - which they had to do anyway, as they had a teenage son and dtr, and 2 minor children, 1- 4 yr. old and 1- 6yr old. She sought help with the Navy housing on base, and received NO help. None. Nada! She was totally on her own- in a strange country where she did not speak the language. I think she told me that everything was to be taken care of when she got there with the kids, wellllll..... I guess this is typical. She DID manage to find a small duplex, with the help of a native who spoke English. I think this is appalling - as WE send our military and their families to other coutries. The least we could do is get them settled when they arrive. This area needs a LOT of work, as well.

10 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:48 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: DakotaRed

Because it conveniently fits into the cause of

A. Making the military look bad

while at the same time

B. Making those who choose to be in the military as a bunch of hapless victims

Not that I don't think the military of this country doesn't deserve better healthcare options, because I most certainly do. However, these things never come up unless it works for the MSN agenda at the time.


11 posted on 03/05/2007 12:50:00 PM PST by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: neverdem
Bingo.

The liberal media will make it sound like the Bush administration is at fault, but in reality under Bush's tenure the VA budget has exploded.

The problem is the design of the system!
12 posted on 03/05/2007 12:54:11 PM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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Because it conveniently fits into the cause of

A. Making the military look bad

while at the same time

B. Making those who choose to be in the military as a bunch of hapless victims

Exactly.

13 posted on 03/05/2007 12:58:11 PM PST by D-Chivas
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That said, I WILL NOT step foot in a VA hospital if I can avoid it.

My dad, a WWII vet, said the same thing, only with out the "if I can avoid it" part. He refused to be treated in one after seeing two brothers-in-law in one.
14 posted on 03/05/2007 12:58:37 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: neverdem

Every bit of medical attention I recieved while on active duty was top notch.


15 posted on 03/05/2007 1:00:06 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours! Keep scrubbing, Rudy supporters, the blood won't come off.)
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To: neverdem

This is one of the things that makes my blood boil. Our vets should be treated and get the best treatment anyone could. I'm furious that this is what our government provides.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 1:01:28 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: USMCWife6869
You're right.

Tricare isn't that bad and the MSM does exploit these topics like now with WR and the VA. However, state managed care almost always looses sight of who the customer is. You don't equate to money when you walk into a military hospital. There is no relationship between service delivered and revenue made. There is no competition between hospitals, specialists, or insurances nor is there a real immanent threat of a law suite when there is malpractice. People still care, and many are professionals, but the profit motivation and customer focus is largely missing in these systems.
17 posted on 03/05/2007 1:02:12 PM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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To: neverdem

Where was Wapo when Congress was cutting VA funding prior to our involvement in Iraq/Afghanistan? I'm in no way downplaying the existing problems... but these skunks in the DBM only have one agenda... and the vets aren't it.


18 posted on 03/05/2007 1:03:53 PM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: neverdem

Maybe the soldiers would have fared better if the VA was conveted to HillaryCare.


19 posted on 03/05/2007 1:04:44 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: dangerdoc

I could give military hospital horror stories also on a less public forum. I had 2 major surgeries at an Air Force hospital ,after one of the surgeries my mom was shocked about conditions at the military hospital and care. But this has been going on for a long time, it was a running jock we had in the military about the hospitals. It just seems very ironic that the problems are now coming to light. This is why universal health coverage would be a very bad idea.


20 posted on 03/05/2007 1:06:31 PM PST by YoungSoutherner (To be young and conservative)
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