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Taiwan must `go independent,' Chen tells FAPA dinner
Taipei Times ^ | 03-05-07 | staff

Posted on 03/05/2007 5:42:48 AM PST by em2vn

Taiwan needs to "go independent" and Taiwan was the best name for the country to use in seeking entry to the UN, President Chen Shui-bian said last night. "Taiwan will say yes to independence," he said. "Taiwan will be correctly named, Taiwan will have a new constitution, Taiwan will develop. There is no left-right political axis in Taiwan, just the question of independence or assimilation."

"The name `Taiwan' is the name of our mother," the president told a 25th anniversary dinner for Formosan Association for Public Affairs (FAPA) in Taipei. "[It's] the most beautiful, most powerful name; the best name for us to [use to] enter the United Nations."

"Taiwan needs a new constitution in order to become a normal, complete country," he said. "The continual existence of Taiwan is beneficial to the citizenry, Taiwanese businesspeople and democratic groups. We can only ensure cross-straits peacefulness by implementing democracy, fostering economic prosperity and taking care of the marginalized."

When reporters asked pan-blue officials to comment on Chen's speech, the response from the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) and the People First Party (PFP) was critical.

"Chen's speech was an attempt to suppress former president Lee Tung-hui's recent remarks that Taiwan is already independent," said Chang Jung-kung,executive director of the KMT's policy coordination department, at a separate event last night.

"It was also an attempt to provoke China when it comes to the issue of cross-straits relations," Chang said. "He is trying to use his `four yesses and one no' to make waves in Taiwanese politics and draw attention away from the corruption that occurred during his administration."

Chang said that China would not be so easily provoked and the US would step in to curb Chen if he goes too far.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chen; independent; taiwan
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China is counting on our 2008 election to give them the green light for the invasion of Taiwan.
1 posted on 03/05/2007 5:42:51 AM PST by em2vn
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Looks like it


2 posted on 03/05/2007 5:43:53 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Charge'em Both Ways)
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A related article with twelve comments:
China's fury at Chen's Taiwan call (from the BBC).
3 posted on 03/05/2007 5:45:00 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Make that "China fury at Chen's Taiwan call"


4 posted on 03/05/2007 5:45:45 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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The only way out for both countries is for Taiwan to offer cash for the island and for China to accept. That way China doesn't lose any face and Taiwan gets what it wants.


5 posted on 03/05/2007 5:46:11 AM PST by mc6809e
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Taiwan should go for it right before the Olympics.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 5:49:24 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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Although the Chinese do seem to have a money-oriented culture, offering to pay for the island doesn't seem to be a feasible option.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 5:49:48 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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12 whole comments over an annoucnement that could lead to war with China, and 22k on a thread about Anna Nicole Smith. Some days I wish I hadn't got out of bed.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 5:51:39 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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That's the most absurd idea I've ever heard.


9 posted on 03/05/2007 5:52:26 AM PST by Dr. Marten (Bush Immigration Policy: No Illegal Alien Left Behind! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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Although the Chinese do seem to have a money-oriented culture, offering to pay for the island doesn't seem to be a feasible option.

Why not?

Seems like a great option to me and in the spirit of China's economic reforms.

10 posted on 03/05/2007 5:55:00 AM PST by mc6809e
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I posted this on another thread, but I'm wondering what you all think about this. A number of seemingly unrelated events is taking place. * New York: North Korean officials arrived in New York over the weekend for discussions on normalizing relations with the U.S.. An unusually accomodating move on our part.

* Taipei: Chen Shui Bian announces the need for Taiwan to seek membership at the U.N. as an independent nation, and renounce their links to China. A dangerous move almost certainly telegraphed to Beijing and Washington in advance.

* Pyongyang: Hu Jintao delivers a message in person to Kim Jong Il at the Chinese embassy. An unusually direct move on the part of China.

Folks, something is going on here. A high level poker game that we're starting to see the edges of. With 2008 looming as a hard time, for a number of reasons, we're entering into a hazardous stretch of months.

11 posted on 03/05/2007 5:55:23 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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That's the most absurd idea I've ever heard.

About as absurd as leasing Hong Kong for 99 years. That never worked out, did it?

12 posted on 03/05/2007 5:56:23 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: Steel Wolf

Well the threads only minutes old...

I missed the ANS threads - And I'm glad... There's really a thread with 22k posts???


13 posted on 03/05/2007 5:56:44 AM PST by DB
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To: Steel Wolf
Sometimes have similar opinions about topics: such as the tendency for Asian related articles to get less traffice than Australian ones, and the superconductor thread right above the earlier "Taiwanese Independence" seemed to be a much momentous thing than the article above it.

But when it's all typed and done (akin to said and done), it just boils down to what individual freepers find interesting. They can't (nor should they) be made to read threads that they don't want to read.

14 posted on 03/05/2007 5:58:20 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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The PRC has made it explicitly clear that it considers Taiwan a part (an integral part) of China. For that alone, the option of a payout seems (seems) off the table.


15 posted on 03/05/2007 6:01:28 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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The new book on Mao says that Kissinger, upon visiting China the first time, offered to give away Taiwan and take all our troops out of Korea.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 6:02:02 AM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: Steel Wolf

Looks as though this thread is getting a decent amount of comments so far.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 6:03:18 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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The PRC has made it explicitly clear that it considers Taiwan a part (an integral part) of China. For that alone, the option of a payout seems (seems) off the table.

Just the opposite. Paying for the island is an admission that the island belongs to China. Accepting payment allows both parties to back away from conflict.

In any event it's much better than a war.

18 posted on 03/05/2007 6:03:24 AM PST by mc6809e
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The only way out for both countries is for Taiwan to offer cash for the island and for China to accept. That way China doesn't lose any face and Taiwan gets what it wants.

The PRC would lose face if it had to buy what they consider their own territory. They'd rather blow it off the map then do such a thing.

And Taiwan wants to not be under communist rule. Selling themselves into slavery isn't exactly what they have in mind.

19 posted on 03/05/2007 6:06:29 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: mc6809e

apples | oranges


20 posted on 03/05/2007 6:07:40 AM PST by Dr. Marten (Bush Immigration Policy: No Illegal Alien Left Behind! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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