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WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM IN 2008
A CONSERVATIVE BUT RATIONAL MIND | 3/4/2007 | AL SIMMONS

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Al Simmons

Sorry,
I cannot support Rudy.

I am debating whether I should OPPOSE him enthusiastically, or just to simply withhold my support for Rudy.


681 posted on 03/05/2007 7:15:19 AM PST by kidd
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To: Blackirish

BTW - I wasn't referring to Rudy as someone that would do that.

But if the counry went far enough to the left, after all Hitler was a Socialist as was his party.

Any way it really isn't that important, because Rudy will not get the nod.


682 posted on 03/05/2007 7:16:02 AM PST by stockpirate (Rudy would be Very Bad for this country and Very Bad for the Republican Party!)
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To: Gurn
"you moron:"

"Why don't you pound a big pile of sand up your rectum?"

Wow. No doubt about it, you're definitely a Rudy supporter.

683 posted on 03/05/2007 7:25:46 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Al Simmons

You'd fair better attempting to make snowballs in hell, than attempting to get me to vote for a RATpublican. Ain't gonna happen. Blackbird.


684 posted on 03/05/2007 7:28:16 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: merry10
"I'm honest enough to admit that many Christians do not behave "Christ like" either, and do not follow the tenets of the Bible."

Some would argue that Mayor Giuliani fits that profile. That's not for me to judge, however.

685 posted on 03/05/2007 7:28:31 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: stockpirate

Ok...I'm Ok with any of the Repubs...I'm not OK with Hillary.

have a good week!


686 posted on 03/05/2007 7:36:06 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Al Simmons; All

NO WAY!

Rudy Guiliani is a left wing lawyer.

He is a simulated Hilary Clinton. Voters will go for a real hilary clinton vs Rudy Guliani in drag.

ALSO ALL THE RINO WOMEN TALK REPUBLICAN BUT VOTE FOR THE WOMAN REGARDLESS. It is all about quotas.

Christine Todd Whitman will vote for hilary clinton.

This is the primary season and there is ZERO reason to support Guiliani any more than McCain.


To know Rudy Guiliaini is to NOT WANT TO VOTE for Rudy Guiliani.


687 posted on 03/05/2007 7:38:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gurn

"Why don't you pound a big pile of sand up your rectum?"

Ouch! That's an image that I never thought I'd begin my day with.


688 posted on 03/05/2007 7:43:07 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Blackirish

"..so whats up with all the hysteria?"

When you get this letter in your mailbox in January 2009, maybe you'll understand the hysteria.

Dear RINO Rudy Supporters,

I want to thank you for your wonderful support in helping to get me elected POTUS. Bill and I are so thrilled to be back in the White House again. Your active support for Rudy, and getting him nominated, was the key to me winning. Without your help Bill and I would not be here today.

Affectionately Yours,

President Hillary Rodman

P.S. I plan to nominate Rudy to the Supreme Court as soon as there is a vacancy. He will help us tilt the court back in our favor to assure that millions more unborn babies will never see the light of day. After all, it's every woman's right!

P.S.S. As you recall, my campaign slogan was, "We're Going to Take Things Away From You on Behalf of the Common Good" ALL YOUR POSSESIONS BELONG TO ME---SUCKER!!!! YEEHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


689 posted on 03/05/2007 7:50:45 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: SJackson; Pharmboy
I'm an NRA member, own two pistols licensed to carry in NY State, and I care about the Second Amendment.

At this point, I'm still in support of Rudy Giuliani for potus - but as new information comes out, that could change. It's too early to be 'wed' to any one candidate.

Thanks again pharm for the education, and thanks to SJ.
690 posted on 03/05/2007 7:51:42 AM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: Gurn

Same here.....I'm voting for Rudy because we need a leader for these dangerous times against dangerous enemies. The "other" issues that Rudy haters keep spewing are secondary. You can't protest for or against any of the activist issues if our enemies are ready to slit your throat.


691 posted on 03/05/2007 8:00:29 AM PST by auto power
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To: stockpirate; Blackirish
One problem I see here is that we are using imprecise language.

Conservatism covers a spectrum of views. Some conservatives feel passionately about a few core issues about which other conservatives are either neutral or are willing to compromise.

I don't think I would apply the term conservative to Rudy Giuliani, at least not with out some modifier, such as fiscal conservative or law and order conservative. He certainly is not a social conservative.

But, that fact doesn't bother some conservative like me.

692 posted on 03/05/2007 8:07:37 AM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: aligncare

As I have mentioned, if you read the post that this person puts up he accuses those who don't follow the Rudy train as being less than something.

Starting off by calling others names is not the way to win friends and influence people.

Yes, he has some conservative values, but for some to try and say he is the whole cake is less than honest.


693 posted on 03/05/2007 8:19:44 AM PST by stockpirate (Rudy would be Very Bad for this country and Very Bad for the Republican Party!)
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To: nopardons
But then, you do enjoy nonexistent picking nits.

No ma'am, your lies and misconceptions are very existent. But better people than I have tried to get you to see facts and failed and were attacked by you for having the gall call to you on your verbal gymnastics.

Life of the mother is indeed the crux of the problem with the bill. Those with the ability to understand see that the life of a mother will be construed by abortionists (using both definitions) can be minor problems (such as her social life will be ruined) compared to killing a viable baby.

You so know that it was originally the health of the mother. If a mother was distraught (considered a health problem) over having to have a live baby living with her she could have it killed at 9 months gestation. BTW, speaking of the life of the mothers, PBA is considerable more dangerous to the life of the mother than giving birth is.

Very few PBA's are preformed to save the life of a mother, most are done for convenience. Those that would not sign the bill are supporting a mother's desire to have it killed seconds before it could be born alive.

694 posted on 03/05/2007 8:21:46 AM PST by Syncro
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To: auto power
Same here.....I'm voting for Rudy

The conservative Christians are rushing to vote for Rudy. Jim Wallis would be so proud!

695 posted on 03/05/2007 8:37:20 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: aligncare

My pleasure. And thank YOU for remaining open-minded--I will be that way too.


696 posted on 03/05/2007 8:38:11 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Al Simmons

No question the cross dressing is very bothersome, but I will vote for Rudy should he get the nomination.Obama or Hillary will DESTROY us. FRED THOMPSON is looking better all the time.


697 posted on 03/05/2007 8:42:58 AM PST by KenmcG414
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To: nopardons

What's Rudy's stance on the Second Amendment ... yeah I thought so. That's a liberal, doesn't trust people to make individual decisions and responsible judgments.

I will never vote for a gun banner. Gun banner == liberal every time. It is the one test that never fails.


698 posted on 03/05/2007 8:43:22 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Liz

No to Rudy! Every time I go through the crap to get on an airplane I think of the open borders and cities with sanctuary policies. Rudy undermined this country well before the planes hit.


699 posted on 03/05/2007 8:52:05 AM PST by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: madprof98
Then, when you were directly challenged about choosing to support a candidate who believes it is acceptable to kill babies in the very act of being born,

No, that person twice questioned my Christianity. Not my position, but my belief in Christ. That is the reasoning of an uneducated moron.

The truth is that you are a pro-abort just like the Blue State secularist you support for President.

No, actually I'm very pro-life. I had this discussion with my pastor the last time he and I had lunch. He related that he could never vote for anyone who wasn't staunchly pro-life.

I told him I used to feel the same way (about that issue and the 2nd Amendment, to boot). "But what if the choice is electing Giuliani or electing Hillary Clinton," I asked. "Would you stay home and not vote?"

He said he probably would. I said, "Congratulations. If enough Baptists think like you, we can guarantee a Democrat victory in '08."

He didn't have an answer for that.

700 posted on 03/05/2007 9:00:34 AM PST by Gurn (Islam is a cancer.)
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