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WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM IN 2008
A CONSERVATIVE BUT RATIONAL MIND | 3/4/2007 | AL SIMMONS

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Al Simmons

Hillary and Rudy lead the polls.

So a lot of people agree with you that the WOT should be turned over to a president with no military or foreign policy experience.




I think that's an amazing fantasy.

Oh well, we survived Woodrow Wilson's presidency...


501 posted on 03/04/2007 4:57:19 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: nopardons

"And NO, no matter how many times you call us other things, we are [not] Conservatives."

There, fixed it for you. By supporting a big-government socialist like Rudy McGiuliRomney, the only thing you are trying to "conserve" is big government socialism and you know it. Rudy is about ZERO percent different from or better than HiLIARy, based on his own words. Too bad, so sad, he's toast as far as people who wish to see our Constitutional Republic conserved and strengthened.


502 posted on 03/04/2007 4:59:06 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: mrsmith
"Oh well, we survived Woodrow Wilson's presidency..."

And Bill Clinton's (the modern equivalent to Wilson's mendacious presidency and cowardice).

But we may not survive Her Heinousness.

So, keeping in track with 1912, pray tell WHERE is the Teddy Roosevelt whom we should vote for over Rudy?

503 posted on 03/04/2007 4:59:34 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: alicewonders
There are still a lot of American babies to be adopted and not as you claim, only by the "rich". I know several couples who have adopted babies born here in America.

Rather than abortions, the reason why there are fewer babies to adopt here, if that birth control is much more readily available now, the stigma of being an unwed mother has been removed and for the past 35+ years, girls are keeping their bastards ( yes, I know, many object to that word, but that is what they are ), and until rather recently, welfare has allowed girls to keep their babies.

There was nothing "cruel" nor "crude" about what I posted.

OTOH, what you posted in reply, is patently false! The thing about Africa being the "only" place left to adopt babies from and that class warfare guff about the rich and famous, is hardly Conservative thought.

504 posted on 03/04/2007 5:00:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lurker

Yes, that is what YOU are...a LIAR!


505 posted on 03/04/2007 5:02:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: stockpirate
Oh, I get it. Your post is satire, right? Your demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. Very good, you had me going there for a second.
506 posted on 03/04/2007 5:02:56 PM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: Al Simmons
As of post 496. there have been 171 unique posters to this thread. I don't count myself.

126 are solidly against Giuliani
25 are solidly for Giuliani
19 cannot be identified, so are labeled neutral, waitnsee

74% are solidly against Giuliani
15% are solidly for Giuliani
11% are undecided

This just reinforces my opinion that FR is a collection point for the majority of smart, well informed and patriotic people who frequent the 'net.

507 posted on 03/04/2007 5:03:15 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: hellinahandcart

They did and more thugs, not regular citizens, got their hands on even more guns.


508 posted on 03/04/2007 5:03:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: stockpirate

It doesn't matter what you IQ is, if you are unable to actually USE it.


509 posted on 03/04/2007 5:05:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Al Simmons

"Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE"

Whoops, there goes your credibility...


510 posted on 03/04/2007 5:05:10 PM PST by Flightdeck
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To: NittanyLion
Why don't you go look it up?

It certainly was against selling guns to children, which was being done.

511 posted on 03/04/2007 5:06:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: William Terrell

Make that 127 are solidly against Giuliani.


512 posted on 03/04/2007 5:08:23 PM PST by Flightdeck
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To: wagglebee
I didn't say that, imply that, nor infer that there is a "shortage of heterosexual couples wanting to adopt".

It would be nice if you could stop seeing things that are not there.

513 posted on 03/04/2007 5:08:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TakeChargeBob

Rudy should run with her as a democrat.


514 posted on 03/04/2007 5:08:59 PM PST by stockpirate (Rudy would be very bad for this country and the Republican Party.)
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To: nopardons

How exactly do the easily documented facts I've posted about Ted Olson qualify as a "tinfoil theory"? Are you unaware that people often sign on as campaign advisers in hopes of future appointements?


515 posted on 03/04/2007 5:09:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: nopardons

Let me ask YOU a simple yes or no question, do YOU think abortion should be legal? YES or NO


516 posted on 03/04/2007 5:10:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Al Simmons

Objectively, Rudy is not a strong candidate for a WOT president.

No one directly disputes this, even his supporters. Who, however, repeatedly say the WOT is a reaon to support him!

How this negative of his will play out in the next few years
remains to be seen. However it is indisputably a negative for Rudy, not a plus.

His tough talk is good politickin' but objectively Hillary has better (though deficient) credentials.

The media can be expected to exploit this in the election campaign if Rudy gets the nomination.


517 posted on 03/04/2007 5:14:35 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: William Terrell
"This just reinforces my opinion that FR is a collection point for the majority of smart, well informed and patriotic people who frequent the 'net."

*ROTFLMAO!!* You had me til this line! I mean, people have accused me of sounding pompous, but this is a bit much...

518 posted on 03/04/2007 5:14:38 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: Flightdeck

He's not a flip-flopper. You may not agree with all of his positions, but he sticks to his guns. And he is a Conservative. The fact that he may not pass your 'purity test' doesn't mean that he is not.


519 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:05 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: Al Simmons
Pro gun control,pro illegal aliens,pro gay marriage, Pro abortion on demand

CINO
Conservative in name only

520 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:39 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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