Posted on 03/03/2007 10:36:24 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
March 3, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani's liberal stance on abortion, guns and gays wasn't his biggest problem yesterday as he addressed a conference of conservative activists - it was his having dressed in drag.
A whisper campaign targeting the front-running GOP White House contender's cross-dressing stunts at gala political dinners in New York and on "Saturday Night Live" was the hot topic among right-leaning activists.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
>> More important that he'll quash Al Queda in a minute.
With or without lipstick?
Has anyone else noticed that Rudy's legs seem to be shaved?
Here's some more excerpt
...conservatives already uneasy with Giuliani's positions on social issues were latching on to his gags as a drag queen.
"Can you think of any president - even Clinton - or another candidate wearing a dress on several occasions? It's unpresidential. It's not a secret, but a lot of people don't know about it, and it's only going to get more attention," said Florida GOPer Gregg Shore.
"It lends credence to the belief that he's not conservative."
"It wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the fact that his views on every conservative value weren't so far to the left. But it resonates here," said Georgia conservative Justin Lewis Wight.
Anti-Giuliani Republicans also circulated newspaper clips accusing America's Mayor of appointing left-leaning judges.
***Looks like someone's been reading Free Republic. I wonder who Justin Lewis Wight is?
Symbolism is no[t] an inconsequential matter in mass communications, or in the recruitment of new terrorists.
What better visual "proof" could they possibly have of the decadence of the West...than actual photos of a male President of the United States dressed as Dolly Parton.
***That's something I hadn't thought of. Thanks. It was also well written. Sometimes the concise term "unpresidential" just doesn't generate the right perspective.
What the MSM wants is turmoil and indecision in the Republican party. As a bonus, they get to poke the social conservatives. {Who they hate/fear? far more than blue blood Republicans}
***Yup. The MSM gets a two-fer. AND they sell newspapers. They know what business they're in.
and marched right along with the NAMBLA banner that was also proudly on display.
***Do you have a photolink to that? It would prove powerful.
Jimrob got crickets as well.
Just what ARE Rudy's qualifications that make him the "BEST man to lead as CIC?"
vanity
Posted on 02/25/2007 4:17:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791077/posts
I found a reference to a resident of NYC talking about it here:
From an earlier discussion on a different thread
One more, though I am unable to tell if it is still available as I can only see the abstract myself anymore. Those who have a NYT sub (or Lexis Nexis) can access the full article:
Has the Mayor Made a Difference
Excerpt:
Comments by eight New Yorkers on where and how Rudolph Giuliani has made a difference in three years he has been mayor.
Mary Cummings, Queens resident: "...I EXPLAINED why I didn't vote for Mayor Giuliani in the last election. I look at the gay pride parade coming up the avenue and I see the gay activists and they are followed by a group from Nambla, the pedophiles. And in back of the pedophiles come, smiling brightly and waving their hands, the two aspirants to be my Mayor, Mr. Dinkins and Mr. Giuliani. I couldn't under those circumstances vote for anyone that would march in a parade with pedophiles."
Buchanan was on Scarborough before the 2006 election discussing this same issue about both Giuliani and Hillary (BUCHANAN: -- If they march with NAMBLA, they're going to have answer it!). Pelosi did so as well in San Fran. But it's only acceptable as a criticism when we mention those who actually acknowledge the "D" behind their names? Wrong.
They float these stories simply to divide the right, and I'm surprised at how many people fall for the gag.
***I think the media floats the stories because they sell newspapers, and they're so readily available. That's what business they're in. I'm surprised how many supposed social conservatives are falling for rudy's socially liberal stances.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Transcript:
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."
Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"
Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."
ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"
"I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
I like Newt.
Rudy's support of amnesty for illegal aliens and recommending Kerik to President Bush demonstrates how weak he will be when it comes to national security.
We do need to make sure "conservative" is not re-defined.
After 8 years of Bill Clinton they had defined GW Bush as a far right winger. In my opinion he's just right of center on some issues and actually to the left of center on some.
After 8 years of Hillary, even Guliani will have been considered "too conservative" to win.
Interesting points. My contention is that rudy's candidacy splits the socon base, and your argument here assumes that to be the case.
Why not back a conservative like Duncan Hunter, and avoid the problems with Rudy's gun-grabbing, illegal-alien-defending, and threadbare moral values?
***Great post. The answer, from what I can see, appears to be... because they agree with Rudy on the issues.
People should wonder about their judgment if they think such behavior reflects on a politicians credibility.
***Your statement does not reflect a truth as much as VictoryGal's. It says, "we should" vs. "poiticians should".
Victory Gal's statement reflects a probable truth within the american electorate, and a certain truth among socons.
You have an extremely low opinion of the intelligence level of socons.
Who's "Al Queda"?
If he's an illegal Mexican alien, then RINO-rudy won't do a DAMN thing about him breaking and entering into our country.
RINO-rudy'd rather "QUASH" our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS and the unborn in a new york city (Police-State) minute.
How is that? Somehow socons are stupid because they question the credibility of a politician who cross-dresses for charity, attends gay rights promotional parades (which may or may not have NAMBLA alongside), and otherwise shows threadbare morals?
Conservative Values:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
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