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Brother and sister fight Germany's incest laws
The Guardian ^
| February 27, 2007
Posted on 03/02/2007 6:31:06 PM PST by DeerfieldObserver
German brother and sister are challenging the law against incest so that they can continue their relationship free from the threat of imprisonment. Patrick Stübing, an unemployed locksmith, and his sister Susan have had four children together since starting a sexual relationship in 2000. Three of the children are in foster care, and two have unspecified disabilities.
The couple, who live near Leipzig, grew up separately and only met many years later. Their supporters say they will fight until incest is no longer regarded as a criminal offence, arguing that the law is out of date. They say it harks back to the racial hygiene laws of the Third Reich and should be overturned in favour of freedom of choice and sexual determination. Detractors insist that incest should remain a social taboo, largely because of the risks linked to inbreeding and the imbalance in social relations it inevitably causes.
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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; europeanunion; genes; genetics; german; germany; ichbineinbredinner; inbred; inbreeding; incest; mutation; sibling; siblings
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To: LibKill
One of the big problems in the Arab countries is the incredible amount of inbreeding. Not brother and sister, but many, many cousins intermarry. Men and women are not allowed to socialize in an open environment, so they tend also to marry within the family.
That is reflected in a strong clannish mentality, and lack of any tolerance for anyone who is not in your particular grup.
To: DeerfieldObserver
One or the other should undergo a procedure to eliminate the possibility to have children as a result of their conjugation.
But ewww.. disgusting.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:51:38 PM PST
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: LibKill
Vas is lets mit Deutch gesprehin?
P.S. My spellcheck is objecting.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:52:05 PM PST
by
JRochelle
(SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
To: DeerfieldObserver
She's 22 and has 4 kids? She needs to learn to do something else besides procreate. Sounds like this poor girl doesn't get out much.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:52:14 PM PST
by
derllak
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Before people get offended, South Korean are supposed to be the most homogenous (see inbred) people. Others with a lot of homogenity (lots of inbreeding) are Somalis and Icelanders. That does not excuse incest.
Many of my extended family are wonderful, beautiful women.
They are strictly off-limits.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:53:01 PM PST
by
LibKill
(ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
To: DeerfieldObserver
One of the big problems in the Arab countries is the incredible amount of inbreeding. Not brother and sister, but many, many cousins intermarry. Men and women are not allowed to socialize in an open environment, so they tend also to marry within the family. That is reflected in a strong clannish mentality, and lack of any tolerance for anyone who is not in your particular group.
That, more than anything else, explains the insane tribal wars in arab-land.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:54:53 PM PST
by
LibKill
(ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
To: LibKill
The comment was not stating that incest should be allowed if the population is relatively heterogenous--but was an argument against incest on genetic grounds. There is also a law against incest on Biblical grounds (probably because of genes), as another poster posted.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:55:09 PM PST
by
Jedi Master Pikachu
( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
To: derllak
"She's 22 and has 4 kids? She needs to learn to do something else besides procreate. Sounds like this poor girl doesn't get out much."
Except out of her knickers.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:55:30 PM PST
by
fieldmarshaldj
(Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
To: derllak
There was a case of this in WI several years ago.
Brother and sister, 4 kids.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:55:46 PM PST
by
JRochelle
(SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Eh, Sorry Master Pikachu, I did not intend any insult.
It is clear that you are also against in-breeding.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:56:19 PM PST
by
LibKill
(ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
To: fieldmarshaldj
And her dear brother out of his lederhosen.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:58:10 PM PST
by
JRochelle
(SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
To: DeerfieldObserver
I guess they truly give new meaning to "rolling your own"
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:58:45 PM PST
by
DaiHuy
(There is no situation so bad it cannot be made worse by the police.)
To: JRochelle
One here in Michigan some years ago. A father, his daughter and their 5 children.
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posted on
03/02/2007 6:59:58 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
To: cripplecreek
There was a story somewhere on the web where a rich father married his daughter. Stole her from her husband. Sick,sick.
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posted on
03/02/2007 7:03:36 PM PST
by
JRochelle
(SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
To: DeerfieldObserver; Jedi Master Pikachu
Years ago I volunteered to provide physical therapy for developmentally disabled children.
One of the boys turned out to be a product of a brother-sister union - just a total mess.
I didn't last long in that particular volunteer unit...
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posted on
03/02/2007 7:03:42 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("There are no stupid questions. There are, however, many inquisitive idiots." - unknown)
To: JRochelle
I have never read of a biological father sleeping with a daughter. Of course, if it is a Stepfather situation, that happens all too often.
To: DeerfieldObserver
Incest is illegal in Germany. That's why they're fighting to repeal the law. They should move to France.
To: DeerfieldObserver
Incest is legal in most European countries.But home schooling is not.
Go figure.
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posted on
03/02/2007 7:10:37 PM PST
by
capt. norm
(Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
To: Anti-Bubba182
My father says that the reason why the British are so homely is that they live on an island. LOL
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posted on
03/02/2007 7:11:20 PM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
To: DeerfieldObserver
There is an innate aversion to incest to brothers and sisters who grew up together as children. There was a recent University study which found that in the State of Arkansas twelve years old was the average age when boys started showing an interest in their sisters.
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posted on
03/02/2007 7:13:55 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
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