Obama's Church: Mainstream? I think not.

sweetness & light ^ | 03/02/2007 | me

[KsSunflower]

Don't know if anybody caught Obama's "pastor" on H&C last night, but it was a real eye opener! If it is through membership in this congregation by which he claims mainstream Christianity, I think many people will have second thoughts as the truth about this church is unveiled. It is afrocentric and anti-white.

excerpt from church website:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. "

Check the above link and this one http://www.tucc.org/home.htm to the church website.

[KsSunflower]

Is this mainstream?

[nevergore]

Shhhhhh! Let's let the Dimocrats nominate him then expose this....

[nctexan]

That's just the local church... The parent denomination has some very liberal views that are out of the mainstream.

[EagleUSA]

It is afrocentric and anti-white.
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Obama is a race-baiter...plain and simple. He will play the race card EVERY TIME it would provide advantage -- he is a textbook liberal. After I heard an interview with his wife, where she made the comment "Barry could get shot driving into a gas station BECAUSE HE IS BLACK"...it was clear what they people are all about. Racist, liberal, useless and totally inexperienced.

[Bernard]

I have not seen much about his relationship with his mother. Does anybody have some info on that?

[KsSunflower]

Really...I tell you, his pastor was rude and combative last night. He basically said that mainstream Christianity is inherrently pro-white, so it is necessary, as blacks, to promote the African agenda.

How that is Christian, I have no idea. Really scary!

[Buck W.]

I saw it--the pastor came across as an idiot, spouting "liberation theology" and namedropping. He actually made Hannity's point.

[Buck W.]

"Barry could get shot driving into a gas station BECAUSE HE IS BLACK"
White people were shot at gas stations by John Muhammed & his sidekick.

[Beckwith]

After reading the Black Value System, reread it. This time, substitute the word "white" for "black."

If the exact same code were published by your church or synagogue, Al Sharpton and Jesse would be out front with 5,000 outraged demonstrators.

And would someone explain to me what the "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness" means?

Does this church actively promote generational poverty or does it want everybody to be rich like Oprah, who is also a member?

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[pandoraou812]

"Barry could get shot driving into a gas station BECAUSE HE IS BLACK"..

So could anyone else black or white. ... Shaking my head. I wonder when he will start yakking about his white roots? When the Muslim ones come back & hit him in his rear? I would never vote for anyone black, white or in between that had a Muslim past. I think even less of him now after his wife's stupid statement. We all take risks in our lives everyday. What makes him so special?

[aruanan]

God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism.

Even those thousands of Southern black slave owners?

[BenLurkin]

Racist church.

Imagine the same website only substitute "Asian" and "Asia" or "White" and "Europe" for "black" and "Africa".

[KsSunflower]

the pastor came across as an idiot, spouting "liberation theology" and namedropping. He actually made Hannity's point.

Yes, very condecending and combative. He did Obama no favor last night. He did nothing to make the church and its beliefs seem acceptible to the traditional Christian community.

One has to wonder what Obama would do with the power of the presidency if he truly ascribes to the church's platform.

[Beckwith]

Does this church actively promote generational poverty or does it want everybody to be rich like Oprah, who is also a member?

I guess it's the generational poverty if you read this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1793962/posts

[ryan71]

Black mainstream.

[litehaus]

Reminded me of Malik Shabazz(sp?) and a few other "chip on shoulder" types that have made fools of themselves on air...Remarkable that Colmes 'just doesn't get it' no matter what he hears he ignores and just keeps spouting his lib BS.

[Jeffrey_D.]

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian"


I went to the website of this church a few weeks back and emailed the Pastor saying, "I'm unashamedly white and unapologetically Christian, am I welcome at your church?"

The reply said (basically), that people of all races are welcome to attend services at their church!

[mrmargaritaville]

Hillary's operatives (aka Waffen SS) will be on this like flys on you know what.

[Dave S]

Is this mainstream?

Its not very becoming of people to criticize others religious beliefs. I suppose you are also accusing Romney of being a cultist because he doesnt roll with the snakes, etc.

[HEY4QDEMS]

Among Blacks, being anti-whitey is, sadly, quite mainstream.