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Duncan Hunter Surprises Pundits In South Carolina Straw Poll
Rick Amato Show ^ | 3/2/07 | Rick Amato

Posted on 03/02/2007 6:41:14 AM PST by pissant

The FOX television talking heads were gushing over the usual suspects- Mitt Romney, Rudy Gulliani and John McCain- when the results of the South Carolina Republican straw poll rolled in and left the pundits stuttering and speechless in mid sentence.

In a surprise result not predicted by any of the national political commentators, California Congressman Duncan Hunterfinished second with 110 votes behind Rudy Gulliani's 123 votes with 71 of the 75 precincts reporting.

Arizona Sen. John McCain was third with 86 votes, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney had 59 votes, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback had 68 votes, and Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rounded out the front-runners with 18 votes.

The underdog Hunter has now taken first in an Arizona straw poll and second in the South Carolina.

The charm of Duncan Hunter is that he is authentic. In a world of hyper-branding and packaging... where politicial speeches sound as if they are the result of focus group studies... Hunter comes across as unscripted, unrehearsed and firm in his beliefs.

...And do not dismiss his unwavering support for Border Patrol Agents Ramos & Compeon. It is the stuff that resonates with people.

As I wrote in The Washington Times back in November, Hunter has a message that connects with republican voters...particularly those in early primary states such as Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire. His message is one of peace through strength, conservative social values and conservative illegal immigration policy.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duncanhunter; duncanwho; giuliani; romney; spartanburg
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To: B Knotts

Any "Trash Duncan" threads you care to link to?


141 posted on 03/02/2007 8:00:32 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The publicity Hunter gets from this is invaluable. And his campaign only had to round up 100 people or so to cast votes to get it.

So it's likely to have a positive effect on his campaign nationally.

My observation is that it's a PR stunt for ANY campaign, and media manipulation of it.

I'm not saying it's not important. Campaigns wouldn't care if they weren't.

I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it as to what current sentiment in the state is for any candidate. Not Rudy, not Hunter, not nobody.


142 posted on 03/02/2007 8:00:33 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Jhensy

You can pull your own head out of the sand by simply reading FR. I don't have time to track down every instance I've read in the past few weeks...


143 posted on 03/02/2007 8:00:45 AM PST by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: Jhensy
Why, we'll all support him, that's what we'll do.

You might, but I doubt "all" of the Rudy-bots will. Heck, Rudy himself has a track record of supporting Democrats. And as a conservative living in NJ, I have seen for myself what happens to liberal Republican supporters when a conservative gets the GOP nod. They feel an irresistible compulsion to publicly support the Democrat opponent. But I digress....

A 7-year Freeper becomes all those things because he doesn't want to see Rudy destroyed. Nice bunch.

Rudy is a north-eastern liberal who has no business becoming the standard-bearer for a party which expects to get conservative votes. Nominating him is electoral suicide. I pray that we Republicans will step back from the edge of that cliff, put down the bong, give the media and pollsters the finger, take a deep breath, and focus on finding a conservative candidate who can rally the base and present a clear choice for the general election.
144 posted on 03/02/2007 8:00:45 AM PST by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: mjolnir

I brought up the same exact issues with a Hunter supporter earlier this week. I was told the Club for Growth is not reliable because as a 501(c) corporation, it is on "corporate welfare".

Protectionism, "Yes" on Sarbox, Medicare Drug Rx plan, No Child Left Behind; "No" votes against the RSC fiscally conservative budgets, a "C" from the National Taxpayers Union... not exactly an economic conservative, IMHO.


145 posted on 03/02/2007 8:02:23 AM PST by Chesner
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To: Domicile of Doom

In March, 1975, NOBODY knew who Jimmy Carter was. In March, 1991, anybody who happened to know who Bill Clinton was only remembered that he gave a speech at the 1988 DNC convention that went on forever.


146 posted on 03/02/2007 8:02:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Just another Joe
More like his supporters were out in force knocking on doors and making calls for several weeks.

The real loser in Romney who also spent a good amount of time working for that vote.

For sure Linseed Graham did not help McC one bit.

147 posted on 03/02/2007 8:04:27 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: pissant
A man amongst boys.

Oh SOooo TRUE.

DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!!

148 posted on 03/02/2007 8:05:12 AM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: airborne
"If Hunter can do this well with out the money and media hype of Rudy, imagine if the Groundhog Republicans (scared of Hillary's shadow) would have the courage to stand and fight for conservatism like they appear to fight just for a win."

Remember Hunter's quote about not needing all those millions to prove himself a conservative? He IS a conservative!

149 posted on 03/02/2007 8:06:18 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Jhensy
I'm not a Hunter guy, although I'm not opposed to him.

But I have seen Newt thread after Newt thread trashed.

150 posted on 03/02/2007 8:06:47 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: mek1959
Where do you go to get the Bumper STICKER? We want them here in California. IF EVERYONE who is behind DUNCAN HUNTER will get a Sticker put on their car and advertise " grassroots" style, I believe we will have our MAN in 2008!!!!
151 posted on 03/02/2007 8:07:51 AM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
He has no chance" my ass! This was HUGE for Hunter.

Lets wait and see. Rush is waiting for a true conservative to emerge before he endorses a candidate. Hunter is the "real deal".

When/if Rush comes out for Hunter, and I think he will, the DBM will have no choice but to start covering him. At that point he will become competitive with Rudy.

McCain is finished IMO.

152 posted on 03/02/2007 8:09:18 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: pollywog
Hi Pollywog,

I've been contributing right along and have received 4 stickers and 4 lapel buttons. I wish Hunter supporter on FR would make a contribution, we'd all be able to help get his name out and overcome the bias towards Rudi, Romney etc.

There's some real grassroots energy present and building. I've worked on a number of congressional campaigns over the years and I can sense some momentum. FOX news on the radio just reported on Hunters "strong" showing in SC.
153 posted on 03/02/2007 8:13:54 AM PST by mek1959
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To: Antoninus

I too have witnessed what you describe. It's nice to finally have a candidate that I don't have to pinch my nose for.


154 posted on 03/02/2007 8:14:21 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: pissant
BOY! For a candidate with NO chance of winning, and that's TOO conservative to win, and NO name recognition, and NO chance of raising enough money to win the nomination, ol' Hunter is sure upsetting a lot of faux conservatives expectations by doing so well in these early straw polls. I wonder why?............../sarc

Give 'em h311, Hunter !

155 posted on 03/02/2007 8:14:50 AM PST by OB1kNOb (After 20+ LONG years, a REAL conservative I can support 4 President - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: johnny7

"The Rudy victory doesn't sit good with me..."

In SC there is a subspecies of Republican which is not quite RINO but has always had a big government leaning. They love Social Security, are devout Christians and often split their votes between dems and Republicans. I would call them the Fritz Hollings Republicans. They would vote for Strom Thurmond and Fritz Hollings and could not see the difference. I think that Rudy's 9/11 publicity makes him sort of a Fritz to them. Legislative members of this group have given gun owners fits for years because of their support for SLED's position on gun control instead of their constituents.


156 posted on 03/02/2007 8:16:53 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Liberty Wins

Did you see this? Go, Duncan, Go!


157 posted on 03/02/2007 8:16:53 AM PST by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservtism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocent)
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To: TommyDale
Too bad we can't channel all this negative energy into positive energy in pursuit of nominating and electing a conservative.
158 posted on 03/02/2007 8:18:18 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: pissant; derllak

Definately closing the gap


159 posted on 03/02/2007 8:19:25 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: OB1kNOb

"BOY! For a candidate with NO chance of winning, and that's TOO conservative to win, and NO name recognition, and NO chance of raising enough money to win the nomination, ol' Hunter is sure upsetting a lot of faux conservatives expectations by doing so well in these early straw polls. I wonder why?"

faux conservatives should read liberals in conservative clothing. Easier for them to understand we know who they are.


160 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:30 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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