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Reading Hillary Rodham's hidden thesis (Quotes from Free Republic)
MSNBC ^ | 3/2/07 | Bill Dedman

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:01:02 AM PST by AZRepublican

WELLESLEY, Mass. — The senior thesis of Hillary D. Rodham, Wellesley College class of 1969, has been speculated about, spun, analyzed, debated, criticized and defended. But rarely has it been read, because for the eight years of Bill Clinton’s presidency it was locked away.

As forbidden fruit, the writings of a 21-year-old college senior, examining the tactics of radical community organizer Saul D. Alinsky, have gained mythic status among her critics — a “Rosetta Stone,” in the words of one, that would allow readers to decode the thinking of the former first lady and 2008 presidential candidate.

Despite the fervent interest in the thesis, few realize that it is no longer kept under lock and key. As MSNBC.com found, it is available to anyone who visits the archive room of the prestigious women’s college outside Boston. With Clinton’s opponents in the 2008 presidential race looking for the next “Swift Boat” attack ad, and the senator herself trying to cast off her liberal image, Clinton's 92-page thesis is certain to be read and reread by opposition researchers and reporters visiting the campus.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acdc; awelleslywench; hildabeast; hillary; hillarythesis; thesis; thunderthighs; wickedwitch
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To: AliVeritas

No, what did they say??


121 posted on 03/02/2007 9:19:27 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Jim Noble; hellinahandcart; kristinn; Doctor Raoul
The thought that all the crap I wrote down when I was in college could be the measure of me 35 years later is chilling, and absurd.

Perhaps, but her swipe at men while playing the victim in the dedication of her work is telling and true to form.

Fat Bottomed Girl (A.K.A. Her Arrogance) thinks she's better than men. 'Pod.

122 posted on 03/02/2007 9:19:33 AM PST by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: AZRepublican

The article is total MSM crap. You get no sense for what's actually said in the thesis. The author was spinning so hard for Hillary and against "attack ads" he imagines could come out of the thesis that I was dizzy by the end.


123 posted on 03/02/2007 9:21:49 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: STARWISE; kcvl
Let's put it all here:

To: onyx


I wonder what brave 'reporter' will demand that Hillary release it?! /s




Barbara Olson: Hil's College Thesis Reveals Her Mind

News/Current Events News
Source: NY Daily News
Published: 1/17/2000
Posted on 01/17/2000 15:13:38 PST by ironman

Hil's College Thesis
Reveals Her Mind

By BARBARA OLSON

"He who fears corruption fears life."
— Saul Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals"

This quote immediately came to mind after my reading of Hillary Rodham's Wellesley College senior thesis — a document kept under lock and key since the 1992 elections.

Back then, when researchers and journalists were searching for information on the newly elected First Couple, Wellesley suddenly declared that it would seal the thesis of any graduate who became President or First Lady.

A few weeks ago, however, I came into possession of Hillary's suppressed thesis. In those 75 pages, the future First Lady reveals herself as someone steeped in the political lore and history of one of America's most political cities. No, not New York — Chicago. There she began her political journey from Goldwater girl to leftist icon.

The thesis' title, "There is Only the Fight ... An Analysis of the Alinsky Model," exposes Clinton's strong ideological attachment to her most influential mentor, Saul Alinsky.

Reading this work makes it clear why she had to remove it from public view, for Alinsky, who died in 1972, was a radical social activist who preached grass-roots organizing and intense, confrontational politics.

While Clinton was studying under Alinsky, he was preparing what would be his final and most important book: "Rules for Radicals," published less than two years after Hillary graduated from Wellesley and only one year before his death.

Alinsky's hold on Hillary is astonishingly evident in her thesis, which is replete with his yet-unpublished political tactics. The thesis reveals that he was moving from local organizing efforts to a new arena — the national stage.

She wrote: "His [Alinsky's] new aspect, national planning, derives from the necessity of entrusting social change to institutions, specifically the United States government."

Alinsky, we can now see, taught Hillary the political tactics that she successfully deployed in Arkansas and the White House and is now beginning to use in New York.

What were his lessons?

Alinsky defined "obtaining power" as a key tactic of organizing his "mass jujitsu." His formula for attack: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it."

This principle has become the essence of the Clinton rapid-response tactic and a key aspect of Hillary's attacks on what she has dubbed "a vast right-wing conspiracy."

The Clinton White House has adhered to Alinsky's rule that "ridicule is man's most potent weapon" and followed his advice to "let nothing get you off your target."

Hillary discusses another Alinsky rule — "power is the very essence, the dynamo of life" — in her thesis. Clearly, she had absorbed his lesson that one must first obtain power to achieve real change.

But nowhere in her thesis — or in her later life — does she seem to recognize the classical liberal critique that the relentless pursuit of power is antithetical to democracy.

Perhaps the most prescient part of the thesis is a quote from a profile of Alinsky in The Economist: "His charm lies in his ability to commit himself completely to the people in the room with him. In a shrewd though subtle way, he often manipulates them while speaking directly to their experience."

Although her thesis was written several years before she cornered Bill Clinton in the Yale Law School library, Hillary had come to recognize the potential power of a man of exceptional charm.

Alinsky recognized the potential of his student and offered her a paying job to develop organizers for "mass power-based organizations." Hillary's thesis confirmed the offer and called it "tempting." But she decided law school was a better place to develop the skills necessary to effect the changes in government she has spent so much of her life trying to achieve.

Hillary's thesis received an A. So far, her political acumen in New York has yielded her at best a C-. But her story continues to unfold.

Olson is the author of "Hell to Pay:
The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton."




http://tinyurl.com/395fxg

237 posted on 01/21/2007 4:42:24 PM EST by kcvl

124 posted on 03/02/2007 9:22:14 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Elsie
 <FONT color=red>This</FONT> <FONT face=Verdana color=blue>stuff's</FONT> code <b>looks</b><STRONG> like</STRONG> this:

 

 

Typing in the NAME of the color works, too!

125 posted on 03/02/2007 9:22:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Eagles Talon IV; Liz

.....Seeing as the Clinton's are the most untrustworthy people on this planet, it is more then likely the original Thesis was replaced by one more palatable to the general population.....

Ding ding ding.....

The truth appears in the first ten posts.


126 posted on 03/02/2007 9:24:19 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P.)
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To: HIDEK6

Maybe it's time to post the physics professor's piece on deconstructionalism that won all those awards and then he exposed it as an intentional hoax.


127 posted on 03/02/2007 9:27:16 AM PST by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: STARWISE; onyx
A star is born!

:)


128 posted on 03/02/2007 9:30:29 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Noble

Remind me to send you links on the trips to Russia by young Hillary and by Bill when I get a chance. Sure it's nothing though.


129 posted on 03/02/2007 9:33:15 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: STARWISE; onyx
And to think, onyx was just minding her own business when suddenly *POOF* becomes a "news commentator".

:) 


130 posted on 03/02/2007 9:33:53 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Sacajaweau

She died in the plane that hit the Pentagon.


131 posted on 03/02/2007 9:34:22 AM PST by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Jim Noble

What do you me "we"? You don't have to do anything. If someone else does, is it any of your business?


132 posted on 03/02/2007 9:34:24 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: AZRepublican

I was surprised to read that it had been hidden during the Clinton years. I thought anyone could go in, but just not photocopy it. A freeper went into the library and looked at it during that period. Forget who. He reported that it was not all that controversial. The real fact was that it wasn't all that impressively written, being authored by the smartest woman in the world as it was.


133 posted on 03/02/2007 9:35:52 AM PST by twigs
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To: Howlin
Barbara Olsen referrs to Hillary's 75 page thesis. Melman calls it a 92 page thesis. Has Hillary been revising, expanding, and perhaps writing a different conclusion?
134 posted on 03/02/2007 9:38:14 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: Jim Noble
But I'm saying we should not waste time chasing ghosts from 1968.

We are the eyes and ears of this here alternative media my FRiend. Anything that comes up for scrutiny between now and next year, will be posted here. Hillary thought she could get rid of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy", but we're all still here.

135 posted on 03/02/2007 9:46:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Eagles Talon IV; bert; Fedora; Calpernia
MSNBC.com found Hillary's on Alinsky thesis is available to anyone who visits the archive room of Wellesley, the prestigious women’s college outside Boston.

Seeing as the Clinton's are the most untrustworthy people on this planet, it is more then likely the original Thesis was replaced by one more palatable to the general population. Maybe the ink or paper on what is purported to be her Thesis can be analyzed to determine its age. By FReeper Eagles Talon IV

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If Hillary did replace the original in the college archives, there might be other originals out there.

The Library of Congress should be checked to see if they might have archived the original.

Also to be checked is the institution (library or college) that stores the collection of Alinsky's papers and books.

Alinsky must have made arrangements to donate his aftereffects and papers upon his death. (Just as an example, Princeton University stores the papers of ACLU founder, Roger Baldwin).

136 posted on 03/02/2007 9:49:10 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; Jim Noble

As Wordsworth said, "The child is father of the man." In other words and in the present case, Hillary's early documented political persuasion is the seed of her present preoccupation....to get power and effect Alinsky's rules from WITHIN.


137 posted on 03/02/2007 9:51:00 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: AZRepublican

I believe Barbara Olsen's Article was more Articulate than this "Alphabet channels" article. From 2000, for EVERYBODYS perusal and God Bless Barbara Olsen!

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3883a222798a.htm


138 posted on 03/02/2007 9:55:51 AM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: backhoe

You think you might want to vote for her because she's a female? Scroll down and see what she's been saying for the last 20 years. Bookmark it to save your country and knock some common sense into your relatives leftist heads. I've been doing that for years. THANKS BAKCHOE!

Hillary Clinton- Archives, Comments, and Opposition Research.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035840/posts


139 posted on 03/02/2007 10:01:43 AM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: AliVeritas

LOL. I attended that reunion, because it was my wife's 20th Wellesley Reunion. Of course we didn't get into any of the Class of '69 events, but I remember the attention paid to the virtual Hillary. Her classmates had to carry a photo cut-out of her in the parade, because she didn't show up. I think she had to arrive a couple of days early for the big D-Day celebration in France so that she could place some rocks on the beach for Bill to "discover".


140 posted on 03/02/2007 10:10:52 AM PST by AZLiberty (Tag to let -- 50 cents.)
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