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To: Cindy; All; backhoe; piasa; JohnathanRGalt; nwctwx; ExSoldier
Fifteen British navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says.

While Iran has done this in the past, tensions were not at this level. Remember, RUMINT was that Iran was going to capture (American) soldiers in retaliation for those Iranian operatives arrested in the current surge. The second issue is that this may also be a ruse to draw US naval assets to this area of the gulf where they would be more vulnerable to Iranian anti-ship weapons. If they try this again, there would be more than enough justification for a strike upon the Iranian naval facilities that they operated out of as well as any assest in the immediate area.

1,287 posted on 03/23/2007 6:57:22 PM PDT by Godzilla (If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.)
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To: Godzilla

"While Iran has done this in the past, tensions were not at this level."

OPINION: I agree Godzilla.

I am hoping and praying the Iranian people rise up NOW and take care of their homeland by dealing with the guys (AllMyJihad - the little Mahdi and his tight band of Mad Mahdis) who need a 12-step program now.


1,289 posted on 03/23/2007 7:02:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Godzilla
Fifteen British navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says. While Iran has done this in the past, tensions were not at this level. Remember, RUMINT was that Iran was going to capture (American) soldiers in retaliation for those Iranian operatives arrested in the current surge.

I want to know something. What were the frickin' Rules of Engagement that says it's okay to allow the armed forces of a threat nation to board a ship of war and take prisoners by force of arms? I don't care if they were in Iranian waters! When I teach a CCW class for the Florida permit, one of the first things I DRILL into women is: (not yelling, but emphasis) NEVER, EVER GET INTO A CAR WITH A BAD GUY!! Get in the car and you're raped or dead. Or both. You don't need to move to get robbed. Anything that requires a bad guy to move a victim for reasons of privacy is going to be B-A-D for the prisoner. Same here. At the point of the initial contact there is hope and there is probably combat but it is righteous. Killed like a sheep taken for slaughter by the muzzie wolf has no honor. I hope the U.S. has learned from this and altered the ROE accordingly. What on earth were the Brits thinking?

A ruse to draw US naval assets into the region? LOL Be careful what you wish for! Given the right ROE, antiship missiles can be destroyed before launch at the point of origin.

1,323 posted on 03/24/2007 10:16:25 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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