Giuliani leads in Spartanburg County straw poll (Duncan Hunter is 2nd)

Contra Costa TImes ^ | March 1, 2007 | AP

[FairOpinion]

With 71 of 75 precincts reporting, Giuliani had garnered 123 votes. California Rep. Duncan Hunter was running in second place, with 110 votes, and Arizona Sen. John McCain at 86 votes, according to county GOP officials.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney had 59 votes, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback had 68 votes and Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rounded out the front-runners, with 18 votes.

[Jim Noble]

Does the name Richard Land ring a bell?

No.

[don-o]

Well, there's part of your problem. Land says no to Rudy and thousands of SBC members will listen to what he says. I gotta work now - but a Google on Richard Land Giuliani works.

[Joan Wilder]

To me he is just what he appears to be a little known congressmen who has spent why to much time inside the beltway. He doesn't interest me in the least one way or the other, a big yawn.

[Spiff]

Is it as many times as Spiff has posted that damn chart of his? I think not.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Varies Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

To: Spiff

Looks pretty accurate to me.

230 posted on 02/10/2007 2:56:00 AM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Ford, Dole, Arnie. Voting for the "unelectable" right-wing kook gave us Ronnie.)

[Vision]

Out of context

LOLOLOL, you have GOT to be kidding?!!! With everything in that video, you have the nerve to defend Rudy? Please...

[WINGED PEGASUS]

Rudy can't win. As a Native New Yorker, I like Rudy. He was a great mayor for the city. The quality of life along with aesthetic and safety issues were never better than under his stewardship. Unfortunately, New York politics much like New Jersey political machines are inherently tainted. The plain truth is that the only way to get anything done in this area is to get a little bit dirty. Everyone understands this and even have a misplaced sense of humor about this fact. The rabid Neocom media coupled with the Clinton demolition squad will provide the same fate for Giuliani which they prepared for poor Bernie Kerik when he was nominated as Secretary of Homeland Security by the President. The only difference will be that the Neocoms will wait until it looks as if Rudy might actually get elected President before pulling out the dirty laundry.(and I'm not talking about divorce here!)This strategy will most certainly hand the '08 Presidential election over to the Democrats. I for one love Rudy, unfortunately I can't support him, we need to win '08.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Get to know him. Listen to him speak.

[mr_hammer]

"That speaks LOUD about Rudy's liberalism."

Damn straight! Nothing against Rudy here, but it's Rudy, Rudy, Rudy from Fox and the MSM.

You only here about Hunter in off handed remarks and look how well he did! I think this bodes very well for him.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Rudy's fiscal conservatism...

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

[cgk]

nopardons post #681: BTW, do you know that Hunter has the same position on partial birth abortion that Rudy has?

Are you aware of the fact that Hunter wants to outlaw birth control pills and claims that any woman who takes them is having an abortion with each pill she takes?

nopardons post #677: I can ping you the post on the thread and YOU can go read it on Hunter's website, from whence it comes.

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You've been repeatedly asked to source your wild-eyed claims that you've posted on several threads now, and since all you can do is point to other threads which DON'T back you up, here are the facts from Hunter's website, where you also claimed this came from.

Abortion/Life

1. Right to Life Amendment:

I would amend the U.S. Constitution and provide blanket protection to all unborn children from the moment of conception by prohibiting any state or federal law that denies the personhood of the unborn. Likewise, I have also introduced the Right to Life Act, which would legally define “personhood” as the moment of conception and, therefore, guarantee all constitutional rights and protections, including life, to the unborn without utilizing a constitutional amendment.

2. Federal laws relating to abortion and human life protections (e.g, embryonic research and end of life, etc.):

There are several areas of federal law that require human life protections. I have cosponsored the following pieces of legislation:

• The Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act, which would amend the federal criminal code to prohibit transporting a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion, if this action circumvents the minor's native state's parental involvement law. I voted in favor of this bill when it passed the House 270-157 on April 27, 2005.
• The Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2005, which would prohibit and criminalize efforts at reproductive cloning.
• The Parent's Right to Know Act of 2005, which would prohibit federal funding to carry out federal family planning programs in which service providers in the project knowingly provides contraceptive drugs or devices to a minor, except in specific circumstances.
• The Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act of 2006, which would require abortion providers to notify women who want to have an abortion 20 weeks after fertilization that the evidence suggests their unborn child feels pain and they may request anesthesia for their unborn child in order to reduce or eliminate the pain.

I have also supported human life protection efforts with the following votes:

• I supported the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act, banning the practice of fetal farming, the creation of embryos specifically for the purposes of scientific research.
• I voted in favor of the Alternative Pluripotent Stem Cell Therapies Enhancement Act, which would direct federal funding to stem-cell research that does not rely on embryos.
• I voted against the Stem-Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, which would have directed the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct and support research that utilizes human embryonic stem-cells, regardless of the date on which the stem-cells were derived from a human embryo.
• I voted against amendments offered to the National Defense Authorization Act permitting taxpayer funded military facilities overseas to be used to support abortions on demand for military women and military dependents.
• I voted against amendments providing UN funding to groups that support coercive abortion programs.

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  And, Giuliani's own words on his position partial birth abortion are right here, to VIEW:

  Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: "I would like to run on the Democratic line "

  You cry about "lies and 1/2 truths posted about Rudy" but you sure use that tactic when going against Hunter.

[dirtboy]

BTW, do you know that Hunter has the same position on partial birth abortion that Rudy has?

There is one key difference.

Hunter has always been anti-abortion.

Rudy supported Clinton's veto of a PBA ban that had provisions for the life of the mother.

So once again, what are we supposed to believe? What a candidate has done when he didn't need our votes? Or what he says now that he wants our votes?

That should be blindingly obvious to anyone except those blinded by a cult of personality.

[pissant]

Oh, I don't think a compliment now and again will sully my pissantiness any time soon. LOL

I've known quite a few of the Rudy fans for some time, and have no intention of making any of them my enemies. This is what the primary season's all about. Pick your man and fight for him.

[pissant]

I have not heard from Gertz in awhile. Is he still at the Wash. Times?

[Howlin]

Funny, I've never really thought of you as a well, pissant........LOL.

And it WAS a classy thing to say. Just shows what a good person you are.

[pissant]

He's trying. His "submarine" ad is pretty powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28q0qxsrX6E

[pissant]

Well, I have to be nice to you. Onyx said so. LOL

[Netizen]

"law and order conservative"

His views on our border says something different.

Bingo!

[Howlin]

And that's the only reason?

BTW, your friend onyx is famous this morning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1793875/posts

[seekthetruth]

"I like it! Giuliani/Hunter"

I like Hunter/Giuliani better, but that won't happen either since they are complete opposites! Go Hunter!

[areafiftyone]

:-)