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Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: "I would like to run on the Democratic line "
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Posted on 03/01/2007 2:53:19 PM PST by Kevmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Thanks to Nsmje

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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To: indylindy

Glad u have a sense of humor.

for all of you ... another Dem PR site that mourns how badly they are handling RG speech. admittedly it was a brillant succinct speech ... which u will hear over and over ... as that is where people (vast majority) are at

Washinton Monthly

April 25, 2007
LETTING RUDY WIN....Yesterday Rudy Giuliani said the country would be safer if it elects a Republican in 2008 — especially if that Republican is him:

“If any Republican is elected president — and I think obviously I would be the best at this — we will remain on offense....I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”

He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”

My reaction: Yawn. Of course Rudy thinks the country would be safer with a Republican in charge. Presumably he also thinks the economy will do better, crime will come down, and everyone will have whiter teeth. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t be a Republican.

So I was curious: how would the Dem candidates respond? With the usual whining? Or with something smart? Greg Sargent has today’s responses from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton over at his site and the verdict is in: more whining. Obama: “Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low blah blah blah.” Clinton: “One of the great tragedies of this Administration is that the President failed to keep this country unified after 9/11 yada yada yada.”

Unbelievable. Neither one of them took the chance to do what Rudy did: explain in a few short sentences why the country would be safer with a Democrat in the Oval Office. Is it really that hard? Giuliani’s position is clear: more war, more domestic surveillance, more torture, and fewer civil liberties. And while it’s true that the liberal position on making America secure is a little more complicated than the schoolyard version of foreign affairs beloved of Bush-era Republicans, it’s not that complicated. So instead of complaining about how mean Giuliani is, why can’t Obama and Clinton just tell us what they’d do?

Whining just reinforces the message that Democrats are wimps. The real way to be “hard hitting” is to explain why Giuliani is wrong and what Democrats would do instead — and why the average Joe and Jane would be safer and better off without guys like Giuliani bumbling recklessly around the globe leaving a stronger al-Qaeda and a weaker America in their wake. Until they do, Rudy and the Republicans are going to win every round of this fight.

UPDATE: This response from the DNC isn’t what I was after, but at least it’s a decent attack on Giuliani. That’s a start, I guess.


441 posted on 04/25/2007 3:51:16 PM PDT by fredalan
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To: fredalan

You can quote to me me from the DNC until your face turns blue. They are losers and so is Rooty. They are all weak, pathetic panderers.

We don’t need that, we need a real leader. The RATs and the Republicans only present us with weak sisters who haven’t the moral courage to stick up for anything. Both parties at this time are corrupt and inept. Not too inspiring. When election time rolls around they both can forget any help from me.

Shame on all of them!


442 posted on 04/25/2007 3:58:30 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: fredalan; indylindy
"guess u r not voting for Rudy"

Anyone with any intelligence here will not be voting for Rudolpho Giussolini. He is a liberal socialist gun-grabbing abortion-loving homosexual agenda-driven creep.

443 posted on 04/25/2007 4:05:53 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: Alberta's Child
Bulloney. In NYC, you try to get on as many lines as possible..that maximizes your potential to get votes. This one has been debunked a dozen times, but if it makes you feel better, enjoy it...
444 posted on 04/25/2007 4:19:23 PM PDT by jonathanmo (Who Is Bob Stump and why didn't he run for President in 2000 ?)
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To: TexasCajun
Sean Hannity is really trying to sell Rudy.

His spin is no more credible than the drive-by media's spin when they try to pass of a Democrat as being less liberal than he or she is.

Jim Robinson is a great American for standing on principle. Sean Hannity isn't. He is nothing but a sell-out and Republican party hack.

445 posted on 04/25/2007 4:21:57 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

Hannity is a Catholic, isn’t he? He supports Rooty.

Oh, maybe he isn’t really a Catholic.


446 posted on 04/25/2007 4:29:29 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: gobus1
If that is the case, I have no meaningful political choice but to vote for him. A third party vote is like giving a vote to the Dems, and staying home is unconscionable.

And, that is the dumbest thing you could possibly as it would guarantee a liberal in the White House for EIGHT years rather than merely for four years. Further, any liberal agenda Ghouliani would push through would go virtually unopposed by Republicans in Congress. Worse, the party in the White House generally loses seats in Congress and that would be even more the case with Ghouliani in the White House as conservatives in the South would return to voting for blue-dog/conservative Democrats.

447 posted on 04/25/2007 4:37:49 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: processing please hold
And I hope that every pro-rudy thread they start, someone will toss all this crap about rudy right in their faces.

We try but they are deterred from posting their propaganda nor do they care about Ghouliani's liberal record. Ghouliani supporters are either not conservatives or just plain dumb or deluded.

448 posted on 04/25/2007 4:40:55 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: motormouth
NOT to mention, that damn lisp drives me crazy.

LOL! * SNORT *

449 posted on 04/25/2007 4:42:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Kevmo
I really don't understand the logic of all these antiGuiliani threads. I am one of the more conservative posters here and threads such as yours make Rudy a more sympathetic figure. That is probably an example of how these attack threads backfire. In a straight up primary I would vote for Hunter or Thompson (Fred) but after reading some of the comments on multiple threads it makes me wish I could vote for Rudy in the primary (well he might be my choice ahead of McCain).

I would definitely vote for Guiliani against Clinton in the general election.

450 posted on 04/25/2007 4:44:03 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: Kevmo
[.. Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: "I would like to run on the Democratic line" ..]

Finally something that sounds logical in this presidential race..
If true the Rudybots must be going... DOH..

451 posted on 04/25/2007 4:46:14 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Hannity was selling Schwarzenegger back in 2003, and look at how California is bending over. Hannity is such a RINO pimp!

I'm still waiting for conservatives to confront Hannity on his own program for his support of Ghouliani. But, maybe, he instructs his call screeners not to let such calls through.

452 posted on 04/25/2007 4:47:31 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: meg88
Have we all forgotten Reagans 11th Commandment?

Reagan's 11th commandment applied to Republicans. Those of us criticizing Ghouliani are conservatives and RINO Rudy isn't one of us.

Principled conservatives have an obligation to oppose liberals in either party.

453 posted on 04/25/2007 4:49:53 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

u r right. they should have left Gray Davis in Calif. we should also excommunicate Arnold, RG, Hannity, O’Reilly etc etc from the church.
what was that about the 13th Commandment?


454 posted on 04/25/2007 4:50:48 PM PDT by fredalan
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To: fredalan

sorry meant 11th commandment


455 posted on 04/25/2007 4:51:27 PM PDT by fredalan
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To: fredalan

sorry meant 11th commandment


456 posted on 04/25/2007 4:51:33 PM PDT by fredalan
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To: fredalan
He also understands that Rudy has the best chance by far to defeat Hillary by enough of a margin that Congress comes back in play.

What's the point of beating Hillary if conservatives have to elect a liberal to do it? Here's a clue -- conservatism is not advanced with the election of liberals to office.

And, you're lying about Limbaugh. He has consistently stated Ghouliani isn't a conservative and expressed reservations about his candidacy. Not once has he stated Ghouliani is the best candidate to beat Hillary because he isn't stupid.

Ghouliani is the least likely candidate to beat Hillary as he would alienate rather than unify the Republican base. Any significant conservative third-party candidate would take a 10-20% of the vote minimum.

457 posted on 04/25/2007 4:56:55 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: fredalan
guess u r not voting for Rudy

Take a look at the current poll here and you'll see a good number of people will not vote for Ghouliani under any circumstances. So, if he somehow got the nomination, don't expect those of us that have stated that to change our minds.

458 posted on 04/25/2007 4:58:30 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: fredalan
McClintock would have won the governship if not for sellouts like you and Hannity supporting Schwartzenkennedy.

But, Schwartzenkennedy is proof that electing RINOs to office and expecting anything good to happen for conservatives is a discredited and deluded notion.

And, the nation CAN and HAS elected conservative nominees for President -- at least far more conservative than Ghouliani -- in five of the past seven Presidential elections.

The idea a conservative can't be elected President is one of the most idiotic I have heard in a long time.

460 posted on 04/25/2007 5:02:43 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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