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New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's 1999 Gay Pride Celebration at Gracie Mansion
Stoenwall Vets ^ | 1999 | staff

Posted on 02/28/2007 9:48:47 AM PST by pissant

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts?page=11#11
George Soros, Postmodern Villain
by Srdja Trifkovic

NGO's, Behold Your God.

Excerpt:

Gay.ru is a Soros-funded Moscow NGO that has developed "into an established and recognized Russian gay and lesbian center" and "the clearing house for lesbian and gay groups scattered across the country":

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SITE Map:

GLBT is part of the Stonewall Society:

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Over the past five years, the Soros network has given a successful start to previously nonexistent "gay" activism in almost all of its areas of operation. The campaign for "LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender] Rights" is directed from Budapest, where Miriam Molnar's 1999 policy paper published by OSI defined the "problem" as discrimination and the low level of acceptance, visibility, and political representation of LGBT's. It was necessary either "to convince the society to accept LGBT people as equal and let the society make pressure [sic] to the politicians (through media) to change laws" or "to convince the politicians that LGBT people are equal and that they need help in convincing the rest of the society." The overall goals were to generate discussion about LGBT identity within the community, to make them visible and "create a positive image," and to establish regular forums of discussion with other groups in the region. Specific tasks included the development of websites in English with subsites in local languages, the establishment of task forces that would react to all "homophobic" media outbursts in one "Pink Book," and the organization of two-week summer schools for teachers that would "provide training about discrimination of [sic] LGBT people, disabled people, overweight people etc."

21 posted on 02/28/2007 10:13:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I'm glad you keep track of this.


22 posted on 02/28/2007 10:14:53 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

Put it in the obscure, childhood memories catagory. Some dude called Rudy... 'Rooty' on another post and it all came back.


23 posted on 02/28/2007 10:15:18 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: pissant

I have too many file folders on this stuff :P


24 posted on 02/28/2007 10:16:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

More background on Stonewall...

Spirit of Stonewall

by Bob Chatelle

[From the PIC Newsletter June 1994, Volume II, issue iv]

an excerpt

I missed my opportunity to be arrested at the Stonewall riots in 1969 by less than a week. In less than a month, I may get a second chance to see the inside of a New York City jail.

On June 21, 1969, I was in Greenwich Village. I then worked for a small Boston computer consulting firm and I was in New York on business--we had a contract with New York University. I was accompanied on this trip by a fellow employee who was also a gay man. Indeed the president of that company was gay. But we all understood the absolute necessity of being firmly in the closet, both within the office and without.

That night, my friend and I were wandering about in our business uniforms when he suggested we go to a club he'd heard about called the Stonewall Inn. The doorman looked suspiciously at our attire, and we were told we could enter only if we were the guests of a "member." We went elsewhere. We weren't surprised at this treatment. It was an election year and soi disant "liberal" John Lindsay was running for reelection and was giving the gay bars a hard time. ("Liberals" were more open about their homophobia back then.)

Nine days later, back at our office in Boston, my friend slipped into my cubicle and surreptitiously showed me the New York Times account of the Stonewall riot. Neither of us new what to make of it. The event was little talked about afterwards in my circle of gay male friends. Most who had any opinion expressed disapproval about that sort of public acting up. We didn't want straight people to think that gays didn't know how to behave. Many of us, I suspect, harbored a secret admiration for those who had gotten fed up and let their anger loose. But had my friend and I been there on June 28, we would've fled when things got "out of hand." Our gay company president, after all, would've been mortified if we'd been arrested at a brawl at a gay bar.

I'd been looking forward to marching in the Stonewall 25 parade this June, and at one time I was even interested in trying to organize an NWU contingent. But, unfortunately, the organizing committee of Stonewall 25 is dominated by those intent on imposing political censorship. To march in the parade, groups must take the equivalent of a loyalty oath. They must pledge their support for age-of-consent laws. Any group that favors the abolition of these laws has been denied permission to march. The obvious intent of this ruling is to keep the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) out of the parade, presumably from a desire to avoid bad publicity. But it galls me that people are being excluded not for what they do but for what they think. The Stonewall 25 Committee is arrogant to banish people not for breaking the law but rather for advocating using the democratic process to change the law.

I don't have a firm personal position on age-of-consent laws, and this is certainly something on which the NWU should take no stand. I consider child (or for that matter, adult) abuse--sexual, physical or emotional--to be a moral evil. But I've seen no evidence that age-of-consent laws are an effective or appropriate means of preventing or punishing such abuse. In any case, this is certainly a matter about which reasonable people can differ.

Several of us who are appalled by the political censorship imposed by the Stonewall 25 Committee have formed a group called Spirit of Stonewall (SOS). We include Mattachine founder Harry Hay, Gayle Rubin, Allen Ginsburg, and NWU member Pat Califia. And playwright Jim D'Entremont, spokesperson for the Boston Coalition for Freedom of Expression and my life partner, whom I met on July 18, 1970, less than a month after the first anniversary of Stonewall.

I am not a brave person and I know that when NAMBLA marches, spectators sometimes hurl more than invective in their direction. And if the organizers of Stonewall 25 are determined to exclude us, I might end up in jail. I was not willing to go to jail in defense of my beliefs in June of 1969. In June of 1994, I'm proud to say that I have changed. Hope to see you on the 26th.


25 posted on 02/28/2007 10:17:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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LGBT Vets at National Convention

Activists aim to end Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell as gay and lesbian troops serve in combat abroad

By JOE KENNEDY

Gigi B. Sohn

Attending a national LGBT veterans’ convention this past weekend were: standing, Lara Ballard, vice president of the Washington, D.C. chapter of American Veterans for Equal Rights (AVER), and, seated, Angel Ramirez, of AVER’s New York City chapter, Denny Meyer, the New York chapter president, and Joe Kennedy, also a New York chapter member.

The weekend of May 21-23, over 100 lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered veterans of the armed forces gathered for a landmark convention in Washington, D.C. to step up the campaign against the 10-year-old Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy that bans LGBT troops from serving openly in the military.

The convention featured seminars, speeches and memorials as well lobbying with dozens of federal lawmakers. American Veterans for Equal Rights (AVER), a national organization of LGBT veterans, co-sponsored the convention along with Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN).

Activist and author Urvashi Vaid, a former head of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, addressed the group and struck a chord when she said, “It’s all about LGBT people achieving equal rights under the law instead of being officially branded as second-class citizens. Every LGBT person has a vital stake in reaching that goal of legal equality, regardless of what one may think of the military or the institution of marriage.”

Opening day of the convention included a party at the new Human Rights Campaign (HRC) headquarters building, celebrating the 79th birthday of the gay rights pioneer Dr. Frank Kameny, a World War II veteran who sued the government and picketed the White House to end job discrimination against lesbians and gays long before the 1969 Stonewall Riots.

In another highlight of the AVER convention, a panel of insiders from the Clinton administration, discussed Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. David Mixner, a gay Democratic fund-raiser and former Clinton aide, said Clinton could have kept his 1992 campaign promise to end the ban on gays and lesbians in the military if only the president had had the credibility of a respected commander in chief and ordered Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, not to publicly lobby against lifting the ban.

What happened instead, Mixner related, was that after the LGBT community provided millions of dollars and votes to help get Clinton elected, none of Clinton’s key aides, like George Stephanopoulos, would lead on the issue for fear that association with gays and lesbians would hurt their careers and reputations as “serious” players in the administration.

Nathaniel Franks of the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military presented compelling evidence that the policy is actually hurting unit cohesion and military effectiveness. Franks added that a recent Gallup poll shows that 79 percent of Americans, an all-time high, say that gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military.

A retired admiral and two generals who came out in The New York Times last December spoke at convention events. Brigadier General Keith Kerr’s voice cracked as he described how living a lie to keep his job meant he could not even properly mourn the death of his beloved partner of 24 years when he died 3 years ago.

Lieutenant Colonel Steve Loomis has filed a lawsuit in federal court arguing that under the principles affirmed by the Supreme Court in Lawrence vs. Texas, Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is clearly unconstitutional and must be overturned. The Army expelled Loomis in 1997 eight days shy of retirement after 20 years of service, with only half a lieutenant colonel’s pension.

Convention delegates also laid a wreath at the gravesite of Air Force Technical Sergeant Leonard Matlovich, who came out in 1973 and was on the cover of Time magazine. On his tombstone in the Congressional Cemetery is inscribed his famous quote: “My country gave me a medal for killing two men, and a discharge for loving one.”


26 posted on 02/28/2007 10:19:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

...you just can't help yourself can you...poor baby....


27 posted on 02/28/2007 10:20:19 AM PST by auto power
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Read post 26 carefully.

Emphasis:

>>>>Opening day of the convention included a party at the new Human Rights Campaign (HRC) headquarters building, celebrating the 79th birthday of the gay rights pioneer Dr. Frank Kameny, a World War II veteran who sued the government and picketed the White House to end job discrimination against lesbians and gays long before the 1969 Stonewall Riots.<<<<


Human Rights Campagin see:

The Log Cabin republicans are members of the HRC.

Matter of fact, Log Cabin republicans AND Victory Fund democrats BOTH belong to the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

See:

http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Federal_Club11&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=21742

Excerpt:

At a separate event during the Convention,
HRC, Log Cabin Republicans and the Gay &
Lesbian Victory Fund honored Republicans
who have stood up against discrimination
in the U.S. Constitution and who work for
equality for GLBT families and individuals.
The message is that not all Republicans
are hostage to President Bush’s divisive
strategy and not all Republicans support
him. Later during Convention week, the
Log Cabin Republicans came to the same
conclusion as HRC that George W. Bush
cannot be our next President.

/excerpt

The new head of HRC [Joe Solmonese] sits on the board of an organization whose top contributor is George Soros.

http://www.outletradio.com/grantham/archives/001775.php
HRC Confirms: Joe Solomonese Is New President and CEO


Log Cabins running for President 2008:

Mitt Romney
http://republicanbydesign.com/wordpress/2006/05/2008-mitt-romney-for-president

Excerpt:

He has been backed by Log Cabin Republicans and other gay groups

/excerpt


John McCain
http://www.ps.logcabin.org/

Excerpt:

Previous Log Cabin awards have been given to Gov. M. Jodi Rell (R-CT), Gov. William Weld (R-MA), Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ), California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson, Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), Sen. John Danforth (R-MO), Mayor Richard Riordan (R-L.A.), U.S. Rep. Mary Bono (R-CA), U.S. Rep. Tom Campbell (R-CA), and U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), among many others.

/excerpt


Rudolph Giuliani
http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/200005191808.shtml

Excerpt:

Log Cabin Salutes Mayor Rudolph Giuliani of New York
"Hearts and Prayers" with Mayor as He Ends His Senate Campaign

/excerpt


28 posted on 02/28/2007 10:22:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Re: posts 26 and 28



RE: The HRC

See also:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1681380/posts
Jimmy Carter: The Untold Story

>>>>As the "human rights president," Carter noted....

http://www.cartercenter.org/doc2313.htm
Jimmy Carter: New U.N. Human Rights Council Raises Hope Worldwide

>>>...Human Rights Council...


My Note:

***This is a source of Foreign influence into U.S. politics STILL***


And also remember:

from my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791031/posts?page=46#46

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts?page=11#11

Excerpt:

Gay.ru is a Soros-funded Moscow NGO that has developed "into an established and recognized Russian gay and lesbian center" and "the clearing house for lesbian and gay groups scattered across the country":

And remember this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787412/posts
The Ted Kennedy / Jimmy Carter KGB connections


29 posted on 02/28/2007 10:22:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Millee
Hey, its not Giulianis fault that the rest of the GOP field sucks worse than Denny Hastert defending Willian Jefferson.

He can beat the beast easy, none of the terrible remaining GOP POTUS wannabees has a chance.

Sorry if you can't handle the truth.

-Not a Giuliani fan

30 posted on 02/28/2007 10:23:33 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: auto power

There have been many whose eyes have been opened to what a blatant liberal Rudy is. Keep yours closed for all I care.


31 posted on 02/28/2007 10:23:55 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Calpernia

RE: post 26

>>>In another highlight of the AVER convention, a panel of insiders from the Clinton administration, discussed Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. David Mixner, a gay Democratic fund-raiser and former Clinton aide, said Clinton could have kept his 1992 campaign promise to end the ban on gays and lesbians in the military if only the president had had the credibility of a respected commander in chief and ordered Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, not to publicly lobby against lifting the ban.<<<<

Who is David Mixner?


(snip)

A big, garrulous man, with a robust laugh and a passion beyond measure, the author and political consultant, born in southern New Jersey on August 16, 1946, fell into the world of politics almost by accident. "I don't know why I got so much political success at such a young age," he says. He's never run for office ("Never will"), never accepted an political appointment, not even when his good friend Bill Clinton was living in the White House, and he has interests that reach far beyond the world of politics.

(snip)

I've been a political person for forty-four years -- started doing volunteer work for John F. Kennedy in 1960. My family were Irish-Catholic immigrants and it was an essential part of the Irish-Catholic experience to work for Kennedy if you were alive back then. I was heavily involved in the civil rights movement in the early 1960s. And I was head of the Vietnam Moratorium, which in the late sixties did all the big marches against the war in Vietnam. I got heavily involved in the campaigns of Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern and Robert Kennedy for president. I became very prominent politically and nationally as a young person -- of course that was the age of youth back then, "The Summer of Love." I'd been to jail a couple of times by then for civil rights -- all for the right things. I was in the closet until I was thirty.

(snip)

MIXNER: Light years ahead of where we were. Let's just sort of walk through it. I was one of the founders of the first gay and lesbian political PACs in history. And that partially came out of the fact of me coming out and becoming a victim -- "God, they're returning my money and they're not letting me play anymore" and " I'm a has-been at 30." My partner, Peter Scott, said to me, "You can either be a victim or you can fight back. What's the thing they respect more than anything else?" And I said, "Money." And he said, "Well, let's just speak their language." So we formed the first gay and lesbian PAC in history, called MECLA -- the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles. It was the organization that HRC modeled itself after. We had the first big political dinner in Los Angeles. I'll never forget -- it made $40,000, an all-time record. And we couldn't believe it. Now, the other night, I sat in an audience in New York, where the gay and lesbian community raised $1.8 million for John Kerry in one night. And five days beforehand, the gay and lesbian community in the back yard of Senator Edward Kennedy raised another $300,000 for the fight against the amendment. And HRC in the last six months has raised a million to fight the amendment. And the Log Cabin Republicans raised almost a million to fight the amendment. Start adding it up -- we've almost raised $25 million this year alone. And back then we were thrilled with forty-fucking-thousand dollars. So look at how far we've come, that's my point.

(snip)

MIXNER: I don't want him to. I don't want him to even look back at that record. We're a whole different community than we were in the 1990s. I want him to have a whole different image of us. And I want us to force him to look at us differently. He's going to be tempted to look at what he knows. And what he knows is the community of the 1990s. But we're a whole different tribe now. And we cannot be the ones to push the Clinton analogy out there. We've got to say, "Oh, no, no, no, that was a decade ago, honey. Listen, Mary, it's a whole new world." It's not enough to be appointed deputy deputy deputy deputy. We want cabinet. We want money from the DNC for our Senate candidates.

Electing your own in the political process is still the most important thing. I've often said I didn't spend these last twenty some years fighting for someone to be the head of the gay and lesbian student alliance. I've been fighting for twenty years so they can be president. Of the United States. And I mean it. I don't know if I'll live to see it, but then I actually didn't think I'd live long enough to see a lot of the stuff I've seen. I've been caught by surprise by how much progress we've made. So who knows?

more: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=244#244

He was one of five key leaders of the Moratorium.
See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=1#1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=238#238
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=270#270


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=270#270
"I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine."

The friend he's alluding to would be David Mixner, one of five key leaders of the Moratorium, the other four being Jerome Grossman (founder), Sam Brown (primary organizer), David Hawk, and Marge Sklencar.

On a related note with respect to Kerry, in early 1970 while he was running for Congress Kerry became friends and political allies with Grossman and Brown. . .[SNIP]

The first paragraph ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209454/posts?page=1#1 ) is a quote from Bill Clinton, not John Kerry. Hence what I was saying in the second paragraph was that Clinton knew Mixner. Kerry knew Mixner's associates Jerome Grossman and Sam Brown. I don't know if he knew Mixner; he may have.




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499463/posts
Time Magazine, School Event Expose Massive Cultural Campaign to Promote Homosexuality to Kids

(snip)

The TIME October 10 piece, “The Battle Over Gay Teens,” which includes not a single reference to the extremely dangerous medical consequences of homosexual behavior, especially for boys, includes these details:

• A cocktail party in Manhattan with billionaire liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, Sr. and Clinton political strategist David Mixner was held in May to raise money for the Point Foundation, a scholarship program to turn “gay” kids into homosexual activists...

(snip)






For immediate release

Sunday, August 14, 1994

Contact: Gay and Lesbian Utah Democrats
Post Office Box 11311
Salt Lake City, Utah 84147-0311
(801)461-5058 metropolitan Salt Lake City telephone number
(800)864-0310 national toll-free telephone number
Internet: glud@aol.com

Tear sheet requested

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David Mixner fights gay political "under-representation"

SALT LAKE CITY - Shortly before President Bill Clinton announced his support
of a new "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" policy about gays in the
military, his openly gay college friend and campaign advisor David Mixner
told The Washington Blade that the president was "good, but far from perfect
on gay and AIDS issues."

The Los Angeles-based political consultant was expressing a widespread
opinion about how many bisexual, gay and lesbian people viewed President
Clinton more critically after his election than they did during his 1992
presidential campaign when he promised to lift the ban against gays in the
military completely, among other things.

"I find him to still be very popular in the gay and lesbian community, but
people are no longer willing to give blind faith. It is now more of an
alliance than a fan club," Mixner said.

That alliance is what gave one of Mixner's groups, Coalition '93, the chance
to encourage the appointment of more than 22 openly gay or lesbian staffers
to the Clinton administration including Roberta Achtenberg as the assistant
secretary for fair housing at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development.

But the government appointment of openly bisexual, gay and lesbian people is
only part of the fight for Mixner. As a director of the Washington,
D.C.-based Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, he hopes to take the success of
electing a supportive president and appointing administration staffers to the
ballot boxes of every state.

"Gay men and lesbians are the most under-represented group in electoral
politics," Mixner complains. Other Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund leaders point
out that of the 497,155 elected officials serving in the United States, only
70 are openly bisexual, gay or lesbian including two U.S. representatives and
12 state legislators. The Fund contributes much-needed money to the campaigns
of openly bisexual, gay and lesbian people.

Mixner has agreed to be the keynote speaker at the Gay and Lesbian Utah
Democrats 1994 Celebration which is planned for 7:00 p.m. on Saturday, Oct. 8
at the John W. Gallivan Utah Center at 36 East 200 South in Salt Lake City.
He plans to speak about "We're Our Own Best Hope - Coming Out In Politics."

"It's appropriate that one of America's most successful gay politicians will
be joining us to celebrate our most successful year," GLUD Chair Michael
Aaron said. "David Mixner works effectively and tirelessly to define
bisexual, gay and lesbian politics inside and outside the Clinton White
House, and as a director of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund."

The celebration is the group's fourth-annual reception and awards dinner, and
is a National Coming Out Day event. The black-tie-optional celebration has
attracted many elected and appointed public officials and candidates since
the first such event in 1990.

"We're very pleased to be offering again one of the few formal events in Utah
that brings together bisexual, gay and lesbian people and public officials in
a pleasant environment," GLUD Founder David Nelson said. "Our celebrations
have become known by many as one of the most enjoyable evenings of the year."

Tickets are available for $30 per person and $55 per couple. Tickets are also
available to GLUD members for $25 each. Ticket information is available by
calling (801)461-5058 or (800)864-0310. Seating is limited.



http://www.aim.org/aim_report_print/5_0_4_0/
AIM Report: Hillary Clinton's Biggest Cover-Ups
August 11, 2003

(snip)

Anti-Anti-Communist

In her book, however, Hillary does write about some of her radical associates. She notes a meeting in 1969 with David Mixner of the Vietnam Moratorium Committee, an anti-Vietnam war protest group that came under investigation by the House Internal Security Subcommittee for its involvement with communists and backing from Hanoi. Mixner would go on to become a leading homosexual activist, adviser to and friend of President Clinton. He was credited with delivering some six million votes to Clinton in 1992.

(snip)


32 posted on 02/28/2007 10:24:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

RE: Post 32 and 14

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1792742/posts?page=32#32

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1792742/posts?page=14#14


We have come full circle here.

Clinton, David Mixner, Vietname and anti war.

They are all the same group.


33 posted on 02/28/2007 10:26:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

been around this old planet for a long time....and have learned in this long life not to be too quick to judge...just because of what you think you might know.....


34 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:03 AM PST by auto power
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To: auto power

There is much I do not know. Rudy's history of liberalism is not such a subject.


35 posted on 02/28/2007 10:30:26 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Rome2000

I'm sorry I can't handle the truth either, but I know a lot of conservatives that aren't gonna vote for him.


36 posted on 02/28/2007 10:35:35 AM PST by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Calpernia

Great thread.


37 posted on 02/28/2007 10:39:02 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Millee
Thats true, a lot of conservatives will not be voting for him but that will be more than made up by the number of independents and even donkeycrats that will.

Hobsons choice but somebody has to be POTUS and better him than the beast.-Not a Giuliani fan

38 posted on 02/28/2007 10:43:51 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: pissant
..these infamous pictures will be plastered all over the Arab world if he wins--

fear and respect of the U.S. will plunge even further--

if that is possible...

39 posted on 02/28/2007 10:44:39 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: TommyDale

Good Lord, please tell me that I will not have to vote for...that! Wonder what the little critter is attached to his leg? :)


40 posted on 02/28/2007 10:59:48 AM PST by 007girl
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