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Some Vitamin Supplements Increase Death Risk Say Researchers
MedicalNewsToday ^ | 2/28/07 | Catharine Paddock

Posted on 02/28/2007 2:45:16 AM PST by XR7

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To: XR7

I intend to live forever. So far, so good. ~Steven Wright


21 posted on 02/28/2007 5:19:18 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: rightwingcrazy

ABSOLUTELY!!! The error I see in many medical papers is CAUSALITY. Sick people often try megadoses as medication. Just because there is correlation does not mean that supplements cause the increased mortality. The major drug companies have been on a campaign for decades against supplements because supplements supplant expensive prescription drugs. For example, I tore my achilles tendon while packing a friend's deer out of the mountains. My orthopods were unable to do anything for me. After 4 years of being incapacitated I heard about glucosamine-chondroitin; my torn tendon grew back in 3 months.


22 posted on 02/28/2007 5:24:52 AM PST by darth
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To: GSlob
So I can stop taking this?


23 posted on 02/28/2007 5:24:56 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: rightwingcrazy

> I'd guess that sick people are more likely to take supplements, so, naturally, people that take supplements are at increased risk. What is the evidence of causality? <


Excellent point! And that's why one should always be skeptical of studies that aren't based on large, randomized samples and even better, a "double-blind" methodology.


24 posted on 02/28/2007 5:58:49 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: sergeantdave
"I keep a tin can next to the..."

Ever considered going to the feed store and buying a mineral block to keep on your desk? Has more flavor than a tin can.

25 posted on 02/28/2007 6:32:15 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: XR7

The only proven miracle pill is good old aspirin.


26 posted on 02/28/2007 6:51:34 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: XR7

The key is moderation. A little extra Vitamin C does you good, a lot can kill you.


27 posted on 02/28/2007 6:58:55 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
The key is moderation. A little extra Vitamin C does you good, a lot can kill you.

Not really. There does not seem to be any fatal oral dose of Vitamin C.

28 posted on 02/28/2007 7:18:13 AM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: XR7
They then went back and eliminated 21 of the trials, leaving only the "low-bias" ones.

Isn't this saying, they threw out the studies that didn't back up their desired outcome?

29 posted on 02/28/2007 7:21:55 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: XR7

bump


30 posted on 02/28/2007 7:25:41 AM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives incentivize people to do perverse things.--- Freeper gridlock)
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To: XR7
The vitamin companies are big businesses, to be sure, but the pharmaceutical companies are bigger. These companies and the medical lobby would love to see vitamins and mineral supplements placed under greater restrictions and limited to prescriptions from doctors. In this fight against more power being assumed by Washington, we are fortunate in that many liberals use vitamins and supplements and will put pressure on their representatives to oppose taking them off the open market.

Now if large numbers of liberals would only start carrying firearms for their self-defense, the gun control crowd would be stymied. The Second Amendment would become as sacrosanct as the First Amendment, and authorities would have to strain to find some reason to ban private ownership of modern artillery and combat aircraft.

31 posted on 02/28/2007 7:48:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: aimhigh

Kinda like Gore throwing out the cold temperatures.


32 posted on 02/28/2007 7:52:26 AM PST by westmichman (They cried "Peace, peace," but there is no peace.)
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To: Wallace T.
You nailed it Wallace.

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33 posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:17 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Duncan Hunter 08 "Will you join us"?)
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To: MDspinboyredux

but they say now that these 'free radical scavengers' do nothing really benificial . And, per usual, I just bought Vit A for the first time today cuz my eyes are getting bad, I get home and then see this article lol-


34 posted on 02/28/2007 9:01:04 AM PST by CottShop
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To: XR7

thanks, bfl


35 posted on 02/28/2007 11:08:12 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: MDspinboyredux

Next year, the research will show vitamins are good for you. Coffee will be bad, again, and tea will kill the kidneys. Every time I see counter research I wonder where the money goes. Moderation is the answer. Don't overdose on anything that is food based resources et al, and one will probably be OK>.


36 posted on 02/28/2007 11:52:15 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: XR7

Fish oil increases the risk of hemorrhagic stroke and can interfere with blood clotting.


37 posted on 02/28/2007 11:53:43 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord shall be born as the seventh month dies.")
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To: CholeraJoe

Sorry. Fish oil has been proven to have all kinds of benefits. To warn about fish oil and to ignore aspirin, etc. is absurd.


38 posted on 02/28/2007 3:39:18 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: XR7

I don't believe it.

The medical establishment doesn't want us treating ourselves.


39 posted on 02/28/2007 3:40:56 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: redgolum
I have done a lot of reading regarding intravenous Vit C. I am so convinced of it's value that I am looking for a practitioner who does it.

There is a well known clinic in Wichita that uses it a lot but that is seven hours from us.

There have been threads on FR regarding IV Vit C and cancer. If I get cancer I am not going to have chemo, etc. I'll do intravenouse Vit C and other alternative therapies. Johanna Budwig has an interesting diet. It seems to have legitimacy. Heat has shown to be promising.

40 posted on 03/01/2007 5:38:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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