Posted on 02/27/2007 1:30:29 PM PST by SmithL
No press pass?
i say he stays there til he releases the tape. Period.
If the perp commits a murder while they are waiting for the tape, charge him with accessory.
He's no journalist, he's a participant.
Correct.
Exactly.
and in his own words, an anarchist. Self incrimination is good enough for me. Send him to gitmo, plenty of stories down there for an infidel.
No press credentials, no First Amendment protection. Rot in jail, maggot.
Jouralism is a trade, not a profession. Anyone claiming to be a jouralist is a journalist.
That said, like any other journalist, he has no special powers to exempt him from the laws of the United States.
Wrong.
A "Freedom of the Press" that only protects those the government deems to be 'members of the press' is no freedom of the press at all.
Stalinist Russia could have been said to have 'freedom of the press' if that's the definition, so could Nazi Germany.
Freedom of the press has to protect everyone who wants to publish stuff equally, professional, amateur, pro-government, anti-government (even to the point of being an anarchist).
Fortunately for all of us the Government does not get to license the press in America.
Possession of a "Press Pass" may be some local courtesy that allows reporters to cross police lines or whatever, but it's proof of nothing. Many of the people who insighted the American Revolution were more like bloggers - anonymous phamphletiers.
Journalism is not, and cannot be, a licensed profession. That would be profoundly incompatible with a free press.
That's one reason that we mostly don't have too many special rules for journalists, nor should we. It would be a very convenient out for a lot of people.
I pretty much agree with everything Debra says about his stupidity and wretched behavior, but if had done the same things while working for the Examiner he would still deserve the same treatment.
No doubt this bothers Journalists no end. Doctors are the original profession that demands respect, via use of the Dr. honorific, and various little letters after it. Licensing and degrees keep the riff-raff from pretending they are doctors.
Lawyers have strive mightily to join the esteemed elite, with state bar exams, JD degrees and even the stilly new habit of putting Esq. on their correspondence.
I'm sure some journalists would like to follow suite. To be a 'journalist' would mean going to a accredited J-school, getting a license, etc.
I'm sure Hillary, the original leftist control freak, would like this idea a lot. It's not clear that Debra was drawing that line, but her editors jumped to do so.
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Who cares? One of the worst aspects of a law that allows people in "the media" to avoid divulging sources is that it treats some jack@ss with a press pass as a different class of citizen than "ordinary" people.
In this age of on-line blogs, internet media, etc., there should be no distinction in the law between someone in the media and anyone else in this country. In fact, I would suggest that some of the posts I've seen here on FreeRepublic are vastly superior in terms of content and truthfulness than most of what I used to read in newspapers.
I enjoyed making press passes for my photograhper friends all through the 1990s. I'm really good at it. They have as much right to pin cool little plastic encased badges with the words PRESS and Working PRESS as any jackass from the LA Times.
He does not have the "freedom" to withhold evidence. he's in trouble for withholding evidence, not for being an anarchist. You're the one who's "Wrong". Read the article.
Then your post to which I was replying was nonsensical: press credentials are neither here nor there.
If there is a special right to protect sources for journalists, based on the first amendment, it has to apply to all journalists, not government certified journalists, otherwise the First Amendment is subverted. If there isn't then press-pass or not is irrelevant.
Then your post to which I was replying was nonsensical: press credentials are neither here nor there.
If there is a special right to protect sources for journalists, based on the first amendment, it has to apply to all journalists, not government certified journalists, otherwise the First Amendment is subverted. If there isn't then press-pass or not is irrelevant.
Wrong. A camera and a web site, or any other means of generating and disseminating news content suffice to make anyone using them a journalist.
It's legally irrelevant what label or credential he has or lacks. He has material evidence in a criminal investigation that has been duly subpoenaed. It remains his *property*, but he must let the subpoenaing officials have a look-see -- or else enjoy his new address indefinitely.
Just imagine if the fellow were instead aligned with a far-RIGHT mindset, and were refusing to turn over the only tape of (say) a bunch of KKK types beating the crap out of some helpless women, minorities, etc. Do we suppose that the folks in SF would be sympathetic to him then? Heck no (and for once they'd be correct). The standard must apply equally no matter what his VIEWS are.
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