Rudy Giuliani, Immigration Liberal (Free Republic Referenced)

The Politicker/New York Observer ^ | 27 February 2007 | Jason Horowitz

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Rudy Giuliani, Immigration Liberal

We've been keeping a close eye on all the recent talk about Rudy Giuliani's attempts to bring some level of conservative nuance to his essentially liberal social positions on abortion, gay rights and gun control as he pursues the Republican nomination.

But what about immigration?

Giuliani strongly supported a guest worker program supported by President Bush and said during a newly interesting appearance on Meet the Press the following: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am, including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago, which we got some amendments of to protect the rights of immigrants."

Those positions put Giuliani in stark opposition to even some of his more moderate Republican supporters.

As an informed reader reminded me, Tom Kean Jr., who ran for U.S. Senate in New Jersey last year and is now an honorary chairman of the Giuliani campaign in that state, was loudly opposed to the guest worker program.

And Barron Thomas, the former Bush "Pioneer" fund-raiser and a promoter of what he calls Giuliani's practical, non-ideological approach, recently told me that he opposes John McCain (his home-state Senator) because McCain is too soft on illegal immigration.

Maybe there are lots of Republicans like Kean and Thomas who will be willing to support Giuliani despite their clear differences on immigration. But it will be interesting to see how he deals with the issue when it's raised by people who are somewhat less inclined to compromise.

--Jason Horowitz

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((((STOP LIBERAL RADICAL RUDY PING))))

[TommyDale]

Rudy Giuliani, Abortion Liberal

Rudy Giuliani, Gun-Grabbing Liberal

Rudy Giuliani, Global Warming Liberal

[Issaquahking]

Giuliani strongly supported a guest worker program supported by President Bush and said during a newly interesting appearance on Meet the Press the following: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am, including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago, which we got some amendments of to protect the rights of immigrants."


Thank you ruddy for reminding us that your to the left of the clinton's.

[cripplecreek]

Crash and burn.

[VictoryGal]

"There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am, including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago, which we got some amendments of to protect the rights of immigrants."

More liberal than Clinton. Lovely. Because, you know, Clinton was waaaay too conservative. /s

Why exactly are so-called conservatives stumping for this guy again?

[Vaquero]

Rudy Giuliani, Immigration Liberal

yeah just like the POTUS.

despicable...

...if they aint no borders...they aint no country...

[Enterprise]

Who is this Gudy Riuliani of whom you speak?

[HEY4QDEMS]

Is it just me or are these Rudy stories having a counter effect on their message?

It seems that every time I see a poll result for the GOP nod, Rudy's lead gets bigger every time.

[Doohickey]

To "win". Or something. Because it worked so well in 2004 and 2006.

[TexasCajun]

...forgot Amnesty Liberal

[TitansAFC]

---"It seems that every time I see a poll result for the GOP nod, Rudy's lead gets bigger every time."---

Oh no! Maybe we should just stop saying bad things about Rudy and everyone will jump to our side! Or maybe the better gameplan would be to constantly praise Rudy Giuliani, so that everyone will want to look for someone else to support!

Rudy's numbers in state polls, based on likely primary voters, are hardly large leads. He trails in several states as well.

Sure, the press would love us to nominate Rudy. Wouldn't you love the Democrats to nominate Zel Miller?

[Condor51]

The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave
By Heather MacDonald, City Journal, January 14, 2004 (FrontPageMag.com)

~~~snip~~~

Immigration politics have similarly harmed New York. Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.” Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.

New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicans—four of them illegal—abducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.

Rudy Tough on Crime & Terror, HA! He's a disgrace and a phony.

And as we now found -- he's a DRAFT DODGER (tsk-tsk, those pesky skeletons).

[savedbygrace]

Rudy Giuliani, The Chosen One of the Big Money Givers of the GOB (Good Ol' Boys)

[TommyDale]

That was in the headline. I also left out "homosexual marriage defender liberal", "partial birth abortion liberal", "embryonic stem cell research liberal" and more.

[dynachrome]

The Rudy wars start early today, I see. I wonder if the author of the article has seen some of the 1000 post threads.
I won't drink no rudy-aid.

[HEY4QDEMS]

Wouldn't you love the Democrats to nominate Zel Miller?

If I had to choose between Zel and Rudy, I'd vote for Zel every time.

[azhenfud]

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/96/me961013.html

For those who may not know, "Executive Order 124" is New York City's policy regarding undocumented immigrants. This order was issued seven years ago by Mayor Ed Koch and then later reissued by Mayor Dinkins and then by me. "Executive Order 124" protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service while they are using City services that are crucial for their health and safety, and critical for the health and safety of the entire city.

[RabidBartender]

Why doesn't Rudy just run as a Democrat?

[TexasCajun]

The Rudy defenders will be screaming "We have to compromise you fool are Hillary will win!"

With Rudy, he's an equal single-issue offender!