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Rudolph Giuliani? What Were We Talking About? [FreeRepublic Sourced In Article]
Renew America ^ | Feb. 27, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/26/2007 11:27:45 PM PST by jdm

Okay, I've had enough. I know the empty-vessel Shill Media struggle for something, anything to talk about, this being the lot of those intellectually and philosophically bankrupt. But Rudolph Giuliani for president? Please. There's more chance I'll simultaneously be made head of NOW and the NAACP and be invited to George Soros' next soiree.

I know a little something about Giuliani. Although my politics, faith, appearance, gun case and, well, most everything about me say otherwise, I was raised in New York City. And one of my last acts before departing the Den of Iniquity for suburbia was to cast a vote for America's Mayor. Don't hold it against me; he was running against David Dinkins, a man who made Forrest Gump look smart.

Unlike the piece I wrote about the now listing U.S.S. Mitt Romney, I'm not herein trying to sound the alarm. Rather, I simply point out that Giuliani is a ship that only floats in New York Harbor. He is far too liberal to get the Republican nomination.

I've never witnessed a more laughable game of collective "Let's pretend" than the media's Giuliani coverage. Even Dick Morris, the erstwhile Clinton propaganda minister who fancies himself the Niccolo Machiavelli of the third millennium, has called Giuliani the man to beat.

He's more like the man who will be beaten — and by more than one candidate, mind you.

The media love to point out how Giuliani is the poll-leader for the Republican nomination, a fact which means absolutely nothing. All many people in middle America know about him is that he didn't pull a Ray Nagin on 9/11 — he stoically shepherded his city through that dark hour — and that he rendered a captivating, earthy speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention. And on his list of credits I'll add that after ferociously battling the mafia as a United States Attorney, he followed suit as mayor and cleaned up NYC, reducing crime and improving quality of life.

This is all well and good but, unfortunately, Giuliani only looks palatable when viewed through the narrow prism of these few events. And sometime very soon the average Republican voter will learn something: Liberal NY Republicans are different from liberal NY Democrats. They have an "R" next to their names.

As mayor, Giuliani never missed a chance to march in the "Gay Pride" parade. He actively supported "gay rights" and said he was "proud" of his domestic partnership initiative (a step toward anti-marriage). Most egregiously, he once opined that homosexuality is "good and normal."

Giuliani also favored government funding for abortion and said that the type of infanticide known as "partial-birth abortion" should not be outlawed in NY. And while he now says he is "personally opposed to abortion," he also once asserted, "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]." I guess he thinks his kids should have the right to choose and receive Big Daddy funding.

Giuliani has also been an advocate of abridging Second Amendment rights and, more odious still, showed his end-justifies-the-means lawyer colors, exercising his mayoral power to the end of filing suit against the gun industry. He has supported the type of invidious discrimination known as affirmative action and has opposed school prayer and tuition tax credits. He at one time said he endeavors to resurrect the spirit of Rockefeller Republicanism and that he would consider endorsing Bill Clinton, stating "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Then, he did in fact endorse ultra-liberal NY governor Mario Cuomo in 1994. And, as damnable as anything else, Giuliani upheld policies that make NYC a sanctuary city for illegal aliens. Anyway, enough about that. You get the idea.

My point is that Giuliani's golfer son, Andrew, has more of a chance of winning the Masters (he is a phenomenal player) than father does of capturing the Republican nomination. Allow me to lend this some perspective.

The hate-America-first crowd likes to say, perhaps when pondering the political prospects of Lady Macbeth and Brokeback Obama, that no woman or black person could be elected president. And given the nature of these two individuals, it may be lamentable that this is not so. But now let's talk about something unprecedented that actually is impossible.

To the best of my knowledge:

What I find truly amazing is that this reality escapes Giuliani. What is this man thinking? Does he fancy that the average Republican voter is a Times Echo? Talk about believing your own press clippings.

The only interesting aspect of the Giuliani coverage is why the media would press forward, seemingly oblivious to the man's inviability. The obvious answer is that it's an alluring story, as Giuliani has a marquee name and a scintillating, romantic persona. It's also possible some in the Shill Media wish to secure a Hillary versus Rudy match-up, thereby ensuring that a liberal will take the oath of office in 2009. Then there's the fact that press lunkheads live such an insular existence, surrounded by so many fellow travelers, that they start to view themselves as the true center. They then come to believe they represent a fair cross-section of America. My guess, though, is that the coverage is probably attributable to all of the above.

Anyway, I don't know what Giuliani's presidential "exploratory committee" told him a while back, but I could have provided the truth at a tenth the cost. Mr. Mayor, you'd stand a better chance running as an independent; then you might at least be able to make a respectable showing. But, really, you'd be best off devoting your resources to any PGA Tour ambitions your son may be nursing. You miss left far too much to be a contender.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drag; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; homosexualagenda; nyc; rino; rudy; rudy2008; rudygiuliani
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1 posted on 02/26/2007 11:27:48 PM PST by jdm
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To: Old_Mil

Old_Mil - you done did good! :O)


2 posted on 02/26/2007 11:29:15 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm
My firm opinion is...it depends. I would like to see Newt as President, but if the Wildebeast gets the Dim nomination (or O'Bama for that matter), and Giuliani has the Republican nomination, guess who I will vote for. It won't be the Dim.

(N.B. I read an article that said many Irish are so dumb that they think O'Bama is one of their own. And I have an Irish grandmother.)

3 posted on 02/26/2007 11:36:27 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: jdm

Sure sounds like Rudy has a lot of past statements to explain to the conservative Republican voter.

This appears to be a redux of the "McCain Express" of the 2004 election. Has Rudy even declared himself a candidate yet?


4 posted on 02/26/2007 11:49:32 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Don't be rediki... riducke...rudicki...stoopid!)
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To: Theresawithanh; Malesherbes; jdm

I should add, I agree with malesherbes, IF Rudy is the R nominee, he gets my vote. My wishing for my ideal candidate does not include letting a dem occupy the WH in 2009.


5 posted on 02/26/2007 11:52:16 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Don't be rediki... riducke...rudicki...stoopid!)
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To: jdm
If this SCUMBAG makes it to the general election as the R candidate, I will (a) stay home, or (b) write in Micky Mouse. Micky Mouse would be a better candidate than either of the presumptive front runners.

This Son-of-a-b**** should not even be running for DOG CATCHER, much less the presidency.

Hey, Julie, if your people are reading this .... SOFOD you PIECE OF SH*T!!!!!

6 posted on 02/27/2007 12:16:07 AM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: jdm

The MSM are skilled at selling demons as angels of light.

Selling G as a conservative would likely be easier.

And, sadly, he is better than HARXIST--Gritch Shrillery.


7 posted on 02/27/2007 12:19:25 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: Neil E. Wright

So Neil! Tell us how you REALLY feel......!! :)


(Read tagline...it beats sitting it out!)
(Read tagline...it beats Micky Mouse!)

(READ TAGLINE! People died for our right to vote!)

BOOOOOOOOOO Rudy. Yea! DUNCAN!!


8 posted on 02/27/2007 12:19:49 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Neil E. Wright

HOWEVER! I will now refer to him as Julie...I LIKE that!


9 posted on 02/27/2007 12:21:08 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: myguns; Jim Robinson
Gee ... you signed up just to post this CRAP????

YOU ARE AN IDIOT, maybe you better tell your momma to take your 'puter away from you. You need to GROW up before you talk to your elders.

11 posted on 02/27/2007 12:34:45 AM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: jdm

If you want to compare Rudy with anyone, it should be Eisenhower. Among the candidates, he's the closest thing to a true war hero from a leadership standpoint, he's extremely likeable, and his political leanings aren't going to be an issue with most people.


12 posted on 02/27/2007 12:34:55 AM PST by chopperman
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To: myguns

Rudy is after your name


13 posted on 02/27/2007 12:37:45 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Malesherbes

I'm Irish and Italian so I guess a Giuliani/O'Bama combo would be my dream ticket! ;-)


14 posted on 02/27/2007 12:45:03 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: jdm
Why we will all have to support Giuliani in the general election:
Because if we don't a pro-Islamic socialist traitor will become president.

Why we will all have to support Giuliani even before he gets nominated:
Because if we don't then he'll have to spend a lot of money to get the nomination that could be better spent winning the general election.

Why we must all get behind Giuliani right now:
Because any arguments amongst ourselves will be viewed by our opponents as a sign of weakness. And any dirt we dig up on him now will be used against him in the general election.

Thus sayeth the pragmatists...
i.e. the ones that gave us the 2006 debacle.

15 posted on 02/27/2007 12:51:51 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Neil E. Wright
You really need to learn to open up to your feelings and let everyone around you know just where you stand.

BTW I agree with you 100%.

Not only did Dame Juli say that he'd support a womans 'right' to kill unborn children, he said he wants to force, and I do mean force, me to pay for it.

L

16 posted on 02/27/2007 12:55:41 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: jdm

saving


17 posted on 02/27/2007 2:52:59 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; jmc813; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...
(((STOP GIULIANI 2008 PRIMARY PING!)))

Freepmail me to be added or removed from this list.

Great article and I'd like to say congratulations to ping list member and true conservative Old_Mil. Good job.

18 posted on 02/27/2007 2:56:14 AM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: jdm

I am embracing the word Rino.

I am a foreign policy hawk.

I am a fiscal conservative.

I am a social moderate - I don't want the government telling me how to live my life. Get out of my house.

If those combined make me a RINO - I wear the name in comfort and will not shrink from defending it.


19 posted on 02/27/2007 3:23:19 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: chopperman

I want to elect a Leader; not a Manager. Rudy Leads. He led Arafat out of Lincoln center and put him effectively under Embassy arrest. That was an act of leadership based on principles that no other person running in either party can match. Then when assaulted with all of the sings and arrows of the Liberal media, State Dept, and not to Mention the bastion of thought the UN itself, He stood his ground in the face of these impotent bullies and they quickly backed down. Rudy stood head and shoulders above his detractors with that simple act of heroism.

Rudy’s managing of the 9/11 was just that; “Managing”. True, he performed in a heroic manner, none-the-less, he was doing his job. What he did that was heroic and showed strong leadership was when he told that Saudi Sheik to keep his $20M blood money. That was a leader talking.

I want a Leader in the War n terror. Tell me one other candidate who has shown such spontaneous and extraordinary leadership and I might start thinking about alternates to Rudy.

Thanks chopperman for the opportunity to bring into focus the “Leadership” issue that everyone seems to want to avoid talking about. Could it be that every other candidate stacks up small when it comes to a comparison to Rudy in this character facet??


20 posted on 02/27/2007 3:57:52 AM PST by noname07718
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