Giuliani Says Taxes Helped Sway Him From Democrats to GOP

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[PhiKapMom]

Washington. Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani addressed his Democratic past on Tuesday and offered one reason for his political conversion — the economy and taxes.

"I don't think anything separates us more right now between Republicans and Democrats than how we look at taxes," the former New York mayor said. "What we understand as Republicans is that, sure, the government is an important player in this, but we are essentially a private economy. What Democrats really believe ... is that it is essentially a government economy."

[garv]

Didn't you get the memo? We "dimbulbs" just can't understand that "government capability" is synonymous with "fiscal conservatism" even though Newt was talking about crime and public safety.

Who knew?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

That is about the only thing he has in common with conservatives. Everything else remains in common with the Marxist dimocrats.

Yep, exactly. The stench of Rudy's social liberalism became too much for me. I was hoping he'd move to the right on these issues but he weaseled out of it instead of just admitting he was wrong back then. Being pro-abortion and in favor of gun control pretty much invalidates the rest of his agenda.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

That technique was not developed by Liberals. It was first developed by Herman Goebbels, (Extreme RIGHT wing) and adopted by Adolph Hitler.

The Extreme left later picked it up when Joseph Stalin adopted the Ministry of Propaganda, which used the same technique.

But it would be very foolish to have us believe that it is something that "Liberals" only do. Both sides have used it throughout history.

[elkfersupper]

I think it would be whole lot easier to get elected mayor of NYC as a Democrat than a Republican.

Unless one runs as a Republican and then governs as a Democrat.

[oceanview]

if you are content with the gun laws in your state - I'm OK with it, keep them. Texas doesn't need NYC's guns laws, but NYC doesn't need Texas' laws either.

this issue is best left to the states. even the NRA doesn't want to test the 2A, as applied to the states, in federal court.

[elkfersupper]

I don't want to get on the subway everyday and be Wyatt Earp.

The NYC subway system could use a few thousand Wyatt Earps.

[LdSentinal]

He pretty much did neither in 1989, 1993 or 1997 except for his tough-on crime approach.

[ikka]

Posting it again and again doesn't make it any more true. Rudy's conservative opinions are of recent origin.

[oceanview]

and everyday, there would be shootings over minor incidents. because in a city like this, where everyone is in close quarters; walking, on public transport, in stores and eateries - there is alot more person to person interaction then there is in parts of the country where the lifestyle is different.

[Miss Didi]

Yeah, I can see myself with a gun on the 6 train every morning (hysterically laughing here)! The city is very safe now; not like the 70's and 80's. We don't fear for our lives anymore.

[Corin Stormhands]

[My GOP]

No, Rudy has always been conservative on fiscal and foreign policy matters.

[My GOP]

You're great with these graphics things. I wish I was that good.

[speedy]

Good question. Anyone who attains professional success seems to be open to the charge of being "elite." Actually, being among the elite in any endeavor sounds like a good thing, does it not?

[Inyo-Mono]

I'll admit his past gun stances are bothersome but he has say that what's good for NYC isn't good for all of America. However, he isn’t the anti-Second Amendment Nazi he is made out to be. On Hannity Rudy said, “I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms.” Rudy isn’t going to try to ban guns or come take anyones guns. Are Democrats pushing for gun control now that they have control of Congress? No.

Oh yes they are. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for a gun grabber of any stripe, no matter what the excuse.

[zarf]

I lived in NYC for 8 yrs. No way would I carry a gun. I would of shot at least 2 bike messengers and twice as many subway freaks I thought were suspicious.

Funny thing is during the second yr of Rudy's admin, the cops were everywhere including a very visible presence on the subway. The city changed dramatically for the better.

Amazing what actual leadership can accomplish.

I feel a weapon is much more useful living out here in the country where the authorities simply cannot respond quickly.

[Miss Didi]

Remember climbing over bodies on the train platforms, homeless everywhere you turned? Those were the days.

[My GOP]

Then see what Hillary has in store for your guns, and every other issue for that matter.

[NittanyLion]

No way would I carry a gun. I would of shot at least 2 bike messengers and twice as many subway freaks I thought were suspicious...I feel a weapon is much more useful living out here in the country where the authorities simply cannot respond quickly.

That's fine, and it's good that you know your limitations. But why should the government apply your standards to everyone else, in clear opposition to the Constitution?

[oceanview]

a while back, I came out of carnegie deli - two car service drivers were trying for the same parking space, jumped out of their cars and started a fist fight right on 7th avenue. imagine them with guns, opening fire - I could have been shot coming out with my leftover corned beef.

within two minutes, NYPD was there to break it up.