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Rudy To Attend CPAC
The Politico ^ | 2/25/07

Posted on 02/25/2007 7:17:47 AM PST by areafiftyone

February 24, 2007

Rudy To Attend CPAC

I reported a piece last month about how Rudy and McCain were skipping some conservative conferences.  One of the events I mentioned that they had not yet RSVP'd to is the Grandaddy Of Them All -- the Conservative Political Action Conference or CPAC.  

Turns out Rudy will attend CPAC.  He'll speak to the confab Friday.


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To: areafiftyone; mkjessup
LOL! Um if I have two or one of those I would be surprised. I'm a female! LOL!

LOL! That was my first thought when I read your post, mkjessup. areafiftyone is a woman. :)

441 posted on 02/26/2007 5:24:45 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: proud American in Canada; mkjessup

I'll keep checking though! ;-)


442 posted on 02/26/2007 5:26:20 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: M. Thatcher
You know what? I can't for the life of me remember now whether it was CPAC 2004 or 2005 that was such a monumental waste of time, money, and gasoline to attend. It may have been 2005.

I didn't know it was "indefensible" to criticize CPAC then. I'm sure I made several negative posts about speakers AND attendees at the time. If you had bothered to inform me way back then that CPAC was a sacred cow, I wouldn't have to wonder now whether you are more concerned with shielding CPAC or Rudy from criticism.

I'm actually glad Rudy will be speaking at CPAC. I hope he gets asked good questions, because I'm very interested in his answers. I'm particularly interested in finding out what bone he intends to throw to conservatives in order to get their support in the primaries, because that's what this is all about.

443 posted on 02/26/2007 5:38:11 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: narses

Is Hillary attending CPAC, too?


444 posted on 02/26/2007 5:39:15 AM PST by TitansAFC (Liberalism is social terrorism, and it's much closer to home. No to Rudy, under any circumstance!)
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To: narses; DKNY
"Wife" #1 was his first or second cousin whom he married without an ecclesiastical waiver of the impediment of consanguinity. The priest who witnessed that marriage was another first or second cousin presumably well aware of the illicit nature of the "marriage." Thus "marriage" #1 was either void ab initio or quite annulable under Canon Law.

"Wife" #2, Donna Hanover, was a previously married non-Catholic who is unlikely to have sought an annulment of her first marriage. Thus "marriage" #2 was barred by her previous and still existing marriage.

At the point of civil divorce #2, Rudy was still a never married man in the eyes of the Church.

Judy Nathan is apparently Rudy's civil wife #3 and, if she was previously unmarried (for whatever Canon Law reason and I don't know that she was), his first and only wife in the eyes of the Church. In that event, there is no ongoing mortal sin of which we would know, other than homosexual shenanigans of others.

We ought to be careful not to unjustly accuse Rudy of what may not be his sins. We can disagree with his public policies in various respects or support other candidates while being just.

445 posted on 02/26/2007 12:23:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Nice try. The reason FOR the annulment from wife number one was to get married to wife number two in the Church. He is playing a shell game with wives. You are buying it. Not me.


446 posted on 02/26/2007 5:35:09 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: BlackElk

The annulment was in 1983, wife two was married to hizzoner on 4/15/84 in a Catholic Church. St. Monica's - Upper East Side.


447 posted on 02/26/2007 5:39:04 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: areafiftyone

Please don't confuse people with facts. :)


448 posted on 02/26/2007 6:37:18 PM PST by dervish (It is a strategy of "no," while our soldiers are saying, "yes, sir" to their commanding officers)
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To: dinasour; NautiNurse; Nick Danger; Exit148; LisaFab; mware; kristinn; tgslTakoma; Angelwood; ...
Looking forward to seeing all or some of you at this year's CPAC. We will be driving down to DC sometime Tuesday afternoon/evening.

We will most likely be in the Omni Shoreham hotel bar on Saturday after CPAC adjourns. Hope to see you there or around the venue March 1-3! :o)

nutmeg & zelig

CPAC 2007 agenda so far: CPAC 2007 agenda

449 posted on 02/26/2007 10:37:14 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: nutmeg
I certainly hope to see you. I'm going down Wednesday for some ACU events and my sister is also comming.
However, I plan to see quite a few of the president candidates, many of whom will speak at 9, so I can't stay up too late on Thursday, Friday.
I can't afford to try to cure a cord through alcohol posoning this time ;-)
450 posted on 02/26/2007 10:41:51 PM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: rmlew
I can't afford to try to cure a cord through alcohol posoning this time ;-)

LOL! That's the problem with CPAC... it's so much fun to stay up late in that very accomodating hotel bar (or wherever), yet it's so hard to get up early to see those early speakers. I admit I've missed a few of the early ones at past CPACs, but not really because of late-night drinking. Most likely late-night FReeping like I'm doing now. Or maybe a combination of both...*ahem*

I hope to see the presidential candidates as well. I sure wish they didn't start until at least 10. Oh well... ;-)

451 posted on 02/26/2007 10:53:24 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Will we see you at CPAC this year?


452 posted on 02/26/2007 10:53:52 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: nutmeg

Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow at our annual meeting! Safe travels...


453 posted on 02/27/2007 4:17:24 AM PST by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: narses
I do know that Rudy's first marriage was barred by the impediment of consanguinity(too close relationship by blood). It was annullable for that reason regardless f his motives for seeking the annulment. If I commit adultery with my next door neighbor, it is adultery even though I just wanted to be neighborly. I would be very surprised if wife #2: secular humanist libertine Donna Hanover bothered to get an annulment of HER first marriage OR married Rudy in a Catholic Church. Her prior marriage, unless annulled by the Catholic Church to which she never belonged, was an impediment to her "marriage" to Rudy. That leaves only the question of Judith Nathan's marital history with which I am not familiar. If she has never been legitimately married (in Catholic Church terms as to Canon Law), then whether you like it or not, they are eligible to marry in the Church. Note that there are a number of contingencies.

I do not favor Rudy as the GOP nominee unless Tancredo were the only competition (in which case I would vote for Rudy early and often). I could certainly vote for him in the general election if he were nominated and shall if I am convinced as to his judicial appointment intentions and if he is standing against anyone vaguely likely to be the Demonratic nominee.

I am not buying anything. I have told you what I believe to be the case as to Rudy's marital history. If you have any facts to offer, I am certainly open to be convinced. This is not a question of: "We don't like Rudy. Therefore we believe anything and everything detrimental to him." I prefer the truth. If you think about it, I'll bet you prefer the truth too.

454 posted on 02/27/2007 11:48:57 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: narses
My apology for claiming that you had not posted facts. I had not seen this post before posting that.

Assuming, as I do, that you are right as to marriage #2 being at St. Monica's, I stand corrected. Now a question may still exist as to whether her first marriage was annulled without which there should never have been a marriage at St. Monica's. That the marriage was contracted in a Catholic Church ceremony suggests that her first marriage must have been annulled.

Therefore, if there was no annulment of marriage #2, Rudy is indeed living openly and notoriously in mortal sin. There, I said it. Of course, it is also gruesome that Rudy and Hanover married on April 15. What an awful anniversary!

Whose annulment was in 1983 (Rudy, Hanover, both?) and, given that the Church does not report annulments publicly, how do you know? Has Rudy or Hanover made an annulment or annulments public?

455 posted on 02/27/2007 12:07:12 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

No offense intended, none taken. I appreciate your scruples.


456 posted on 02/27/2007 8:39:44 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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