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1 posted on 02/24/2007 10:46:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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The defense lawyers simply should be ashamed.

Every person charged with a crime deserves a vigorous defense, and part of that process is an attempt to plead down the case. Defense lawyers have nothing to be ashamed of in the slightest.

Some judges dissent because their egos are bruised. They are taken out of the equation after a child predator is convicted.

Ego doesn't have anything to do with it, Judges understand that justice isn't as simple as a rulebook.

2 posted on 02/24/2007 10:56:03 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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In the Colorado legislature, all six Democrats in the House Judiciary Committee voted against allowing Jessica's Law to come to the floor for a full vote. The same six Democrats voted against forcing sexual offenders to register online, so that people would know who is addressing them on the Internet.

Sad to say but I didn't need Bill O. to tell me this. If there is any kind of perversion the democrats are for it. Coddle the criminal, blame the victim.

How can anyone be a democrat? (rhetorical question)

3 posted on 02/24/2007 10:56:56 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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child molesters are unable to reform and the most merciful punishment for them is death.However we are a "civilized "society and must try the alternative.Or so say "enlightened"liberals.Uh-huh.And I'm a mongoose,too.


4 posted on 02/24/2007 11:17:24 PM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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It all depends on the definition of "child".

After puberty, if no force or threat was involved, a mandatory minimum of 25 years is WAY too much.

I wouldn't object to a high minimum sentence if coercion was involved or if the victim was a REAL child (pre-adolescent) and not just a "legal child" (meaning under 18). But there are lots of teenagers who, while legally minors, are sufficiently mature that it makes sense to say they "consented", and in that case, even if you rightly impose a jail sentence, 25 years is crazy. (And of course you can't jail teenagers of similar ages for having sex with each other.)


8 posted on 02/25/2007 12:48:19 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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"If you rape or sexually brutalize a child, that child will never fully recover. For the rest of that person's life, the crime will be played out in a variety of ways."

Valid, true statement.


13 posted on 02/25/2007 3:51:49 AM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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Maybe the mandatory sentence should be triggered only by a certain span of years between the ages, say 3 years or more.

15 posted on 02/25/2007 5:00:32 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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The problem with this type of crime is that the offender is not deterred by any punishment society is wiling to impose.

There was another Florida case where an 11-year old girl was killed by a guy with eleven priors for unprovoked assaults against females. In the first case, he hit a woman over the head and dragged her into the woods, but she escaped and, because she was not "harmed" he pled down to a trivial charge.

Right then and there, society lost its best chance to save that poor little girl's life.

Hitting a woman over the head and dragging her into the woods is not a crime like robbing a gas station or writing bad checks, but it is processed in the same way by the same people.

In the case of a guy who drags strangers off to rape them, what's wrong with the offender never gets fixed.

If it were up to me, I'd execute people like this as soon as they were identified, but lifelong incarceration is fine with me - I'd just rather not pay for it.

17 posted on 02/25/2007 5:29:50 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Thus, the punishment must be the forfeiture of freedom for much of the abuser's life. That's punishment fitting the crime.

O'Reilly is against the death penalty. I can live with that, provided that the alternative makes the perps WISH they were dead! Life at hard labor, 16 hours a day, seven days a week with no amenities whatsoever, on minimal rations sounds good, but it is too damned expensive. See my profile page for the proposed solution. < /rant >

19 posted on 02/25/2007 6:15:15 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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I'm not a big fan of BORe but when he's right, he's right. Kudos to you Bill.
20 posted on 02/25/2007 6:42:03 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (google the "Verses of the Sword" to understand our Islamist enemies.)
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